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Tony Edwards

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Best surfactant
« on: September 28, 2016, 11:31:30 pm »
So seen different opinions from fairy liquid to Benz

Which is the most effective surfactant in your opinion ?

The yanks use elomonater but can't seem to source in the uk

Is Benz actually worth the high price they charge ?

Kev Martin

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2016, 05:16:59 am »
It depends what your using it for, what contaminant and on what surface.  There is no one product that suits all!!!!
It will however be difficult to convince the infamous "Wyatt  Smurf " of this FACT regarding Hypo ;D ;D ???
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chris scott

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 08:21:00 am »
So seen different opinions from fairy liquid to Benz

Which is the most effective surfactant in your opinion ?

The yanks use elomonater but can't seem to source in the uk

Is Benz actually worth the high price they charge ?
What is the word blue and how do you want it?
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Tony Edwards

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2016, 05:32:20 pm »
So seen different opinions from fairy liquid to Benz

Which is the most effective surfactant in your opinion ?

The yanks use elomonater but can't seem to source in the uk

Is Benz actually worth the high price they charge ?
What is the word blue and how do you want it?

Now I am confused .com

Kev Martin

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2016, 06:00:09 am »
I don't know why your confused I have given you a perfect reply!  There is nowt else to say really other than to re- iterate there is no such thing as one suits all.  I use Klindex KP 85 polishing powder for 80%  of stone polishing.  But there are times when I have to select one of the other 17 polishing powders we have.  It is the same with cleaning.
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Tony Edwards

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2016, 08:50:46 am »
Confused with Chris reply not yours

chris scott

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2016, 04:22:08 pm »
Confused with Chris reply not yours

I was really confused by your questions...not that is hard for me to become confused.
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Tony Edwards

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2016, 06:53:45 pm »
Chris

Simple , best surfactant to use with hypo ?

Also what's your opinion of the Benz products ?

chris scott

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2016, 07:30:18 pm »
So seen different opinions from fairy liquid to Benz

Which is the most effective surfactant in your opinion ?

The yanks use elomonater but can't seem to source in the uk

Is Benz actually worth the high price they charge ?
1) Fairy Liqiud is a detergent/surfactant....Benz is not (really). It is Bleach with a surfactant added.
2)Which is the most effeective? ...that depends what you are trying to do. Fairy liquid is good for your dishes and hands...don't put it in the washing machine with your clothes.
3) Elomonater  ...can't comment as the data sheet don't tell me what is in it http://site.pressuretek.com/MSDS_SDS/ELEMONATOR.pdf
3) Possibily ...as they have gone through all the correct channels to make it "legal" Data sheets ,testing, approval etc. It's still only bleach and soap tho'
4) Lauryl Dimethylamine Oxide is pretty stable in most things and makes bubbles.
5) Fairy liquid is a pound a litre in the "pound shops"...it is an excellent product for a multitude of cleaning tasks.  If they did not produce so much of it worldwide it would be loads more expensive.....maybe the Yanks don't have Fairy.
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Tony Edwards

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2016, 07:49:38 pm »
Cheers Chris

So your saying you use fairy as surfactant when you soft wash ?

chris scott

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2016, 08:48:04 pm »
It's an option.
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Tony Edwards

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2016, 12:37:20 pm »
Wow this is hard work just for a simple answer !

Anyone else , best surfactant with hypo ?

chris scott

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2016, 01:14:47 pm »
..but seeing I am in a good mood I will answer it again Lauryl Dimethylamine Oxide .
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nathankaye

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2016, 05:52:42 pm »
..but seeing I am in a good mood I will answer it again Lauryl Dimethylamine Oxide .

+1

The problem is Tony, this question is repeatedly asked on here. I myself asked this question a good number of months ago and ive seen it asked so many times since then. However the above quote is ur answer. But you could also uss the search feature on here to find the answer as well.
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Pod

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2016, 12:01:51 am »
..but seeing I am in a good mood I will answer it again Lauryl Dimethylamine Oxide .

Any links as where best to buy from guys ?

nathankaye

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2016, 08:13:43 am »
..but seeing I am in a good mood I will answer it again Lauryl Dimethylamine Oxide .

Any links as where best to buy from guys ?

The hard bit has been done for you, identifying what the sufactant is.....you surely dont need help buying it as well....youve got to do a little work yourselve mate
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Plankton

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2016, 09:30:07 am »
Great this forum. It's like a cryptic crossword :)
Using the search bar is best... If you have time. You'll find lots of answers(replies) 8 years out of date.
I'm no expert but I generally use washing up liquid that the chemical supplier makes. You would need to try Clever Wash etc http://www.bonnymans.co.uk/products/index.php?categoryID=1929 on a variety of jobs and in different weather. (Seeing is believing)

nathankaye

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2016, 12:35:56 pm »
We arr happy to help on here, but every 4wks or so, the same questions come up and the same answers are there. But surely we dont havr to tell every secret and help every little thing. What is it? How much is it? Where do you buy it? How much to put in? How do u use it??
How about we do all the jobs for you instead......some effort has to be put in, inorder to appreciate the knowledge gained.
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Smurf

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2016, 12:15:47 pm »
So chaps I'm also interested to find out what scent product  do you put in the mix to stop it still smelling of bleach?

nathankaye

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Re: Best surfactant
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2016, 12:46:20 pm »
So chaps I'm also interested to find out what scent product  do you put in the mix to stop it still smelling of bleach?

So far ive been lucky, not used any. The clients have said how it smells clinically clean and they like the idea of that. I try not to grin too much as i happily take their money  ;D
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