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sunshine windows

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2016, 08:05:38 am »
For arguments sake, if the value of the day's taking was the same, I much prefer doing lots of smaller jobs than one big job.

You get more rest between work, driving time.  Whereas on larger jobs you're constantly grafting.
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Shrek

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2016, 08:15:27 am »
For arguments sake, if the value of the day's taking was the same, I much prefer doing lots of smaller jobs than one big job.

You get more rest between work, driving time.  Whereas on larger jobs you're constantly grafting.

Agree with this , I much prefer smaller jobs as on some large jobs they feel like they're never gonna end

8weekly

Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2016, 08:26:42 am »
For arguments sake, if the value of the day's taking was the same, I much prefer doing lots of smaller jobs than one big job.

You get more rest between work, driving time.  Whereas on larger jobs you're constantly grafting.
Up to a point I agree. I'm not keen on older properties as they tend to be fiddly

dazmond

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2016, 08:31:52 am »
plus having your "eggs in lots of smaller baskets" it doesnt hurt when you lose one or two for whatever reason. :)
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2016, 08:50:17 am »
of course i have jobs that are £50+ a time and they make a nice change from run of the mill jobs but whether im working my way through very compact estate jobs(20+ a day) with virtually no driving about or cleaning 6 or 7 larger jobs spread out or say 10-11 medium size jobs down a posh cul de sac im earning good money(all within a few miles of each other).

to me the key is having a mixture of all sorts of domestic jobs and a few commercial  and nearly all the work in the same area.

less driving about

less wear and tear on the van

low fuel bills(around £40 a month)

shorter working days so im home quicker/earlier.
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2016, 08:54:13 am »
having lots of jobs also means more cups of coffee/biscuits etc,more add on jobs from existing customers and more  tips at xmas. ;D
price higher/work harder!

SeanK

Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2016, 09:09:48 am »
of course i have jobs that are £50+ a time and they make a nice change from run of the mill jobs but whether im working my way through very compact estate jobs(20+ a day) with virtually no driving about or cleaning 6 or 7 larger jobs spread out or say 10-11 medium size jobs down a posh cul de sac im earning good money(all within a few miles of each other).

to me the key is having a mixture of all sorts of domestic jobs and a few commercial  and nearly all the work in the same area.

less driving about

less wear and tear on the van

low fuel bills(around £40 a month)

shorter working days so im home quicker/earlier.

Agreed, I'm in a similar position not because I planned it that way its just the way the jobs came along, there's plus and minus points on both, I have a couple of what I would call grand design type properties that are well priced, but as with a lot of these
architect masterpieces there's been no thought given on how to maintain the property or clean the windows making them awkward and hard to clean. Self cleaning glass what a joke.

Tom-01

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2016, 10:28:31 am »
I think a mix of work is good to be honest. Our best is £270 4 weekly with gutters and pressure washing every other time, but we also have a £10 8 weekly - both valuable to the business.

That's why GoCardless is good as we have quite a few days whereby the price is the lower end of the scale but when they're all paying by direct debit you get the whole lump sum anyway. I like the variety but it's true if you get in with the higher end of the market it's surprising where it can take you.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2016, 10:30:51 am »
Today's work

£160
£85
£65
£45

Start at 9 finish 4.30

Nobody cares.

I do. I find it really useful to compare daily takings with other people in the industry

Why ? they are just numbers that mean nothing. you don't know what the person did for those figures how good was the
quality and so on. does he clean frames does he clean doors does he clean sills the list is endless.
The fact is this whole thread is pointless,
There will be guys doing 20 £25 properties easily a day which is no different to 10  £50 jobs  or 5  £100 jobs and all will be
elite rounds.

i find this thread very interesting. not trying to be rude, but if you aren't interested in the thread you could just look at another thread and not comment on it.

i really like Mick Kents posts because he seems to have a similar business mindset to me.

there are loads of threads on here that I have no interest in i just skip them

it's pretty common in industries for people to compare takings so they can see how they are doing and learn from other peoples successes.

if i;m earning say £500 a day, and someone else tells me in the same industry they are earning £600, I'm interested to see if there's something i can do differently.
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

SeanK

Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2016, 11:06:27 am »
Today's work

£160
£85
£65
£45

Start at 9 finish 4.30

Nobody cares.

I do. I find it really useful to compare daily takings with other people in the industry

Why ? they are just numbers that mean nothing. you don't know what the person did for those figures how good was the
quality and so on. does he clean frames does he clean doors does he clean sills the list is endless.
The fact is this whole thread is pointless,
There will be guys doing 20 £25 properties easily a day which is no different to 10  £50 jobs  or 5  £100 jobs and all will be
elite rounds.

i find this thread very interesting. not trying to be rude, but if you aren't interested in the thread you could just look at another thread and not comment on it.

i really like Mick Kents posts because he seems to have a similar business mindset to me.

there are loads of threads on here that I have no interest in i just skip them

it's pretty common in industries for people to compare takings so they can see how they are doing and learn from other peoples successes.

if i;m earning say £500 a day, and someone else tells me in the same industry they are earning £600, I'm interested to see if there's something i can do differently.

Richard I got shot down on here for saying I compare prices of what other shiners are charging in my area so understand perfectly where you coming from.
The thing is if its somebody local you can check out how he's getting those earnings and adjust your own if needed, on here I could tell you I get a £100 for a certain job and do 5 a day but that's not going to be of any use to yourself or others as you
wont know what I actually do to get that, put it this way if I was to double my speed I could double my turnover but you might
look at me cleaning and think cowboy he's not cleaning them half right.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2016, 11:26:12 am »
Today's work

£160
£85
£65
£45

Start at 9 finish 4.30

Nobody cares.

I do. I find it really useful to compare daily takings with other people in the industry

Why ? they are just numbers that mean nothing. you don't know what the person did for those figures how good was the
quality and so on. does he clean frames does he clean doors does he clean sills the list is endless.
The fact is this whole thread is pointless,
There will be guys doing 20 £25 properties easily a day which is no different to 10  £50 jobs  or 5  £100 jobs and all will be
elite rounds.

i find this thread very interesting. not trying to be rude, but if you aren't interested in the thread you could just look at another thread and not comment on it.

i really like Mick Kents posts because he seems to have a similar business mindset to me.

there are loads of threads on here that I have no interest in i just skip them

it's pretty common in industries for people to compare takings so they can see how they are doing and learn from other peoples successes.

if i;m earning say £500 a day, and someone else tells me in the same industry they are earning £600, I'm interested to see if there's something i can do differently.

Richard I got shot down on here for saying I compare prices of what other shiners are charging in my area so understand perfectly where you coming from.
The thing is if its somebody local you can check out how he's getting those earnings and adjust your own if needed, on here I could tell you I get a £100 for a certain job and do 5 a day but that's not going to be of any use to yourself or others as you
wont know what I actually do to get that, put it this way if I was to double my speed I could double my turnover but you might
look at me cleaning and think cowboy he's not cleaning them half right.

i see what you're saying Sean.

i guess what i do, is there are people on here who i trust what they say, and some that i don't really pay a lot of attention to, not because i think they are lying, but just because i don't know.

if it still pricks my interest. if the figures are interesting I'll ask them more Qs and make a judgement
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

Stoots

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2016, 12:50:24 pm »
Today's work

£160
£85
£65
£45

Start at 9 finish 4.30


Mine so far started at 9 it's 1pm now

£12
£16
£15 - CAN'T DO PAINTING
£15
£8 CAN'T DO NOT IN
£8 CAN'T DO GATE LOCKED
£8
£8
£8
£7
£12

About 90 quid and need to finish shortly for docs. Pretty poor day even by my standard

Tosh

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2016, 02:10:37 pm »
Me. Ive done nought £00.00
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2016, 02:27:03 pm »
Me. Ive done nought £00.00

No no no. You've done:

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Flat oot, like a duck's foot.

8weekly

Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2016, 02:40:01 pm »
I've done 2 hours marketing (leafleting). Exhausted. I don't know how you lot manage it!


SeanK

Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2016, 03:02:03 pm »
Iv been out giving off to workmen who decided to dig a hole in the road in front of my drive while I was out
yesterday meaning I have to park my van down the road with no access to water.
Some private firm working on gas pipes or something, these guys are a law onto themselves.
Sorry guys if I'm not my usual pleasant self. lol.

NWH

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2016, 03:02:39 pm »
Everyone I've ever known has started with smaller jobs and built it up over the years with bigger jobs gained along the way,the way to do it is to constantly sort wheat from chaff. I always kept on the smaller jobs to the point I didn't have the time to get to them anymore on time,in a lot of cases I was turning up to 6 weekly jobs every 3/4 months late because I was putting them off due to better bigger jobs. In the end I found it less profitable to be running round trying to do 3/4 jobs when I could plod round 1 for more money,I know there are a lot of WCs that have and prefer the smaller jobs but TBH you can never say it's easier or more profitable to do them. I used to hate it when I'd look in my book and think I've got to go to X today and knock out 5-10 jobs when I had a lovely quick job down the road for more money,you almost feel that although your getting paid for them your still losing out.

Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2016, 12:32:07 am »
A lot of peeps care, the few that don't care happen to be the ones that say.

Or those who just enjoy cutting through BS.

Tosh

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2016, 01:35:58 am »
If I don't care about something I simply have no desire to comment, on here or elsewhere.

It's not necessarily bullpoop because you disagree with it. We all have opinions, they're all equally valid.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Smurf

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Re: Elite domestic round
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2016, 07:50:22 am »
I think most would agree to be able to work less for more reward as there are only so many hour in a day you can physicaly work. How you go about doing that is the tricky bit.