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colin stee1e

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Commercial gutter and window pricing
« on: September 25, 2016, 02:57:44 pm »
Curious to what the industry standard is for commercial gutter and window cleaning.

For a job with over 1km of guttering and 1500+ windows, using a cherry picker and WFP.  What would you charge per metre and per window.  The usual £3 p/m and £1 p/w or more/less.

Cheers

Smudger

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2016, 03:46:40 pm »
pricing would depend on height and access but you would be well over if using a mewp if the job could be gutter vac'ed

how long in your estimation would it take with your method of clearing ?

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Tosh

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2016, 04:05:52 pm »
Commercial gutters can be a totally different ballgame compared to domestics. A km of gutters a foot wide not having been cleared for a number of years could result in a skip or two of waste needing to be removed.

As smudger says, an MEWP involved will add expense but also allow the graft to be carried out quicker compared to using a ladder, which is likely not to be permitted within a RAMS.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Tosh

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2016, 04:08:43 pm »
We did a commercial gutter cleaning job earlier this year of a sizeable building using a cherry-picker in London. I'd put some pictures up as an example of what we had to contend with and  possible issues but will be ridiculed as a bragger so sorry mate, can't help anymore. Shame.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2016, 04:19:00 pm »
We did a commercial gutter cleaning job earlier this year of a sizeable building using a cherry-picker in London. I'd put some pictures up as an example of what we had to contend with and  possible issues but will be ridiculed as a bragger so sorry mate, can't help anymore. Shame.

its a shame you feel this way as I would like to see it as well , were going in to this now and are finding it hard to get the price right , yes we have been short on a few but there were a learning curve for us , now we quote a daily rate or 650 with one guy and a picker which is some where near what the top boys are charging

Tosh

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2016, 06:11:08 pm »
Sorry guys. Maybe take it up with one of the moderators. It's not worth it in my eyes when some people interpret suggestions as arrogance and lay in to you for no other reason than that.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

chris turner

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2016, 07:29:59 pm »
Sorry guys. Maybe take it up with one of the moderators. It's not worth it in my eyes when some people interpret suggestions as arrogance and lay in to you for no other reason than that.

Nothing wrong with putting up pictures if asked to do so by others, especially where it could be of help.
I think the reason people take offence by your pics is because there's always a shot of your van in the background, or the picture is always taken from a distance to show the 'scale' of the job.
A few of us have been guilty of it from time to time, including me. It's a good feeling to pick up large jobs, it gives you a sense of satisfaction and being typical guys we like to find a way to gloat. 🤣
Maybe you could be a little more 'selective' with the pics you post, for example in this thread, you could pop up some up close pics of the gutters you mentioned, before and after.

colin stee1e

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2016, 07:44:49 pm »
Thanks for the replies, we'll be using a cherry picker for 80% of the work, all clearing done by hand. 

Basically there is no industry standard from what I am hearing, it's using intuition, experience and sales skills.   I'll stick my my usual method, it hasn't gone wrong so far.

Thanks for the help.

simonr

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2016, 07:50:02 pm »
I would of thought a distance shot to show scale was of great interest and important to perspective

SeanK

Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2016, 07:56:42 pm »
Sorry guys. Maybe take it up with one of the moderators. It's not worth it in my eyes when some people interpret suggestions as arrogance and lay in to you for no other reason than that.

Nothing wrong with putting up pictures if asked to do so by others, especially where it could be of help.
I think the reason people take offence by your pics is because there's always a shot of your van in the background, or the picture is always taken from a distance to show the 'scale' of the job.
A few of us have been guilty of it from time to time, including me. It's a good feeling to pick up large jobs, it gives you a sense of satisfaction and being typical guys we like to find a way to gloat. 🤣
Maybe you could be a little more 'selective' with the pics you post, for example in this thread, you could pop up some up close pics of the gutters you mentioned, before and after.

Chris he's playing the wounded innocent, he knows exactly why he was accused of being arrogant and it has nothing to do
with him running a successful business or showing pictures of jobs that a lot of us wouldn't dare to tackle.
He gave as good as he got and its been put to bed, if he wants to huff about it then that's his business, I certainly wont be giving it
anymore thought/replies after this post.

Tosh

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2016, 07:58:07 pm »
Sorry guys. Maybe take it up with one of the moderators. It's not worth it in my eyes when some people interpret suggestions as arrogance and lay in to you for no other reason than that.

Nothing wrong with putting up pictures if asked to do so by others, especially where it could be of help.
I think the reason people take offence by your pics is because there's always a shot of your van in the background, or the picture is always taken from a distance to show the 'scale' of the job.
A few of us have been guilty of it from time to time, including me. It's a good feeling to pick up large jobs, it gives you a sense of satisfaction and being typical guys we like to find a way to gloat. 🤣
Maybe you could be a little more 'selective' with the pics you post, for example in this thread, you could pop up some up close pics of the gutters you mentioned, before and after.

I take pictures with my van in so others don't steal them. That's a good enough reason for me.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

cgh window cleaning

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2016, 08:06:29 pm »
I'm the same nearly all my pictures on social media  and on my site will have my van or me in to stop other people using them.

chris turner

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2016, 08:24:07 pm »
Not being funny, but who cares if a couple of guys use your pictures? Will it really hurt you?
I would of thought it would be something to proud of..

ChumBucket

Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2016, 08:35:23 pm »
I heard down the grapevine that the FBI were after some pictures of houses and were scouring window cleaning forums, maybe that's the reason? Or maybe they're just after business advice! ;D

Shrek

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2016, 08:43:40 pm »
I think it's bloody cheeky taking other people's pictures, some of us work hard for the before and after / marketing pictures whilst some others are to lazy to take their own and go on forums begging to use other people's work. Get your camera out and start taking pictures of your own before criticising others

Tosh

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Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2016, 08:53:57 pm »
Not being funny, but who cares if a couple of guys use your pictures? Will it really hurt you?
I would of thought it would be something to proud of..

It's one of the criteria Google use to rank your website having unique images.  So it does matter.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

ChumBucket

Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2016, 09:08:30 pm »
Not being funny, but who cares if a couple of guys use your pictures? Will it really hurt you?
I would of thought it would be something to proud of..

It's one of the criteria Google use to rank your website having unique images.  So it does matter.

Yeah, I'm sure that would make a huge difference to a local shiner's website! ;D

If it was some Blue-chip company I would share the concern but Oakley Window Cleaning? ::) LMAO

8weekly

Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2016, 09:49:18 pm »
Not being funny, but who cares if a couple of guys use your pictures? Will it really hurt you?
I would of thought it would be something to proud of..

It's one of the criteria Google use to rank your website having unique images.  So it does matter.

Yeah, I'm sure that would make a huge difference to a local shiner's website! ;D

If it was some Blue-chip company I would share the concern but Oakley Window Cleaning? ::) LMAO
Still being nasty then.

Tom White

Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2016, 09:53:43 pm »
Still being nasty then.

No, not anymore.  If he reappears with a similar vitriolic attitude, please use the report to mod button.

Tom White

Re: Commercial gutter and window pricing
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2016, 09:56:00 pm »
I think it's bloody cheeky taking other people's pictures, some of us work hard for the before and after / marketing pictures whilst some others are to lazy to take their own and go on forums begging to use other people's work. Get your camera out and start taking pictures of your own before criticising others

I took some gutter cleaning before and after pics on Friday and during the job I thought "Should I go over the top and make these look brilliant?"

And then I thought, "Naw, I'm pretty good at using post image production software (Lightroom Photoshop), and I can make them look perfect in there.

Has anyone seen where I left my spurs?