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cgh window cleaning

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2016, 11:19:33 am »
asking window cleaners prices on forums is never a good idea the difference  can be massive .
with out seeing the job your answers will be too varied.some have allready said around £450.00 some around £1200  that's a big difference in price.
The same goes for time some will say 3 days others 10.

10 days like you have estimated is far to long I clean a site of 220 flats a rough guide will say 4-5 Windows per flat plus communal areas so around  1000 windows which I can clean on my own in 3-4 days.

Geting big jobs wrong can cost you massively in both money and time.

Sometimes if you don't. Know what your doing or its to big a job you have to know when to walk away.

8weekly

Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2016, 12:42:24 pm »
a simple £1 a window comes to almost the same figure and you don't need a degree in maths to work it out.
I must be missing something?  ???
Lots of townhouses I do have 4 Windows on the front and 5 on the back, does that make them £9?

No I'm sure you get £50 for them, (roll eyes ) I have nine window town houses where you would make a killing at £9 a pop
as long as you have enough of them to keep van moves and traveling to a minimum, you certainly wouldn't charge that if it
was a one off in the middle of nowhere.
Then I have others where even though they still have nine windows some of them because of the size or type might count as two or three.
The price wont be solely about the number of windows but the shape, size, type, handiness of access and so on, but there will also
be benefits to make you more competitive such as having all the work in one place, that said good luck getting the work from
a nursing home, I clean the property of a wealthy Nursing home owner and have priced all four nursing homes with no success
and believe me I'm nowhere near Lord weekly's pricing bracket.
In her own words unlike her own property she just wants a cheap acceptable job done from somebody with the right paperwork and can get it for a lot less than I want.
Can't resist can you? Haven't you got any work? Has the big bad millionaire windowcleaner taken it all?

I was just making the point that £1 a window is not a sound pricing policy.

NWH

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2016, 02:21:16 pm »
The figure of just over a 1000 is fine if your normally earning quiet a bit under 300 a day,on jobs that size you need to be pricing over what you'll earn a day normally + a profit or you may as well continue doing your usual work you do day to day. This work I would always go in over and above what I'd normally want TBH,jobs of this size all you are is a number one year your doing it next month your not don't kick yourself if you lose it thinking I could have got a lot more from that job over the years coz I've done it myself.

NWH

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2016, 02:31:36 pm »
I also agree £1 a window system is not good,it leaves little room for profit on large jobs and on houses you'll end up doing in some cases large houses with not a vast amount of Windows for peanuts. Say a large house had 35 Windows but it was out in the middle of knowhere and the round trip was 2 hours,what do you do say I'll do it for £35 I think not.

Smudger

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2016, 03:40:41 pm »
Lots of great posts on this, but generally the op does not have enough experience to take this on, not enough water or manpower what happens in the 2 weeks your cleaning this home to your regular customers ? - most places will not want you taking 2 weeks either.

Like ms dean said this is a two man job that may be done in a day at most day and a half, cleaning a large site does not compare to residential work in terms of the number of windows (size is a big factor for example office windows can be taller and wider than residential then there are glass atriums but offset that with they are all in a row (compact) a two man crew cover 200 meters without a single move - this could be easily a third of the building
Be prepared to take a long time on the first clean to get them up to a decent condition the following cleans will be quicker but I suspect the 3 monthly clean we be binned within a year for either six monthly or annually

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Tosh

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2016, 03:41:42 pm »
If it's out in the sticks I'd do the conservatory roof free.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

JandS

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2016, 08:16:27 pm »
Price it per flat.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

dazmond

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2016, 08:32:38 pm »
id walk away if i were you and concentrate on smaller jobs mate.a lot of these sorts of jobs take ages to pay,mess you about and get rid of you at the drop of a hat and your daily rate( if you go in too cheap and it takes you too long) will be lower than normal run of the mill work.

aint worth it for a sole trader IMO.(esp with limited experience)

price higher/work harder!

Mick Kent

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2016, 08:38:05 pm »
at 1175 you wont get it ! we just quoted one similer size and didn't get the job at 460+vat as we worked it out as a days work foe two men
How would you know what he will and wont get? You havnt seen the place!
Your price sounds well off and id worry "cowboys".

NWH

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2016, 09:00:31 pm »
Obviously not always but a lot of the time you can earn more money doing domestics that are priced well and in general you'll hang on to them for years. On commercial all it takes is a new manager or someone that deals with this to fancy a change and all you'll get is an email saying we've made over arrangments thanks,I've in the past tried to get this kind of stuff contracted but most of them wouldn't agree to it so you will always be in the dark wether or not your for the chop.

David Beecroft

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2016, 07:47:59 am »
I find £1 per window is a good starting point, then I factor in all the other variables. Finally I look whoever is asking in the eyes and judge what they're willing to pay.  With this particular quote you aren't talking about a big house in the middle of nowhere with 35 windows, its one site with nearly a thousand windows.
It can't be that difficult? ???

NWH

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2016, 04:30:45 pm »
I find £1 per window is a good starting point, then I factor in all the other variables. Finally I look whoever is asking in the eyes and judge what they're willing to pay.  With this particular quote you aren't talking about a big house in the middle of nowhere with 35 windows, its one site with nearly a thousand windows.
It can't be that difficult? ???
Thats lovely work but not work I would say I may keep for a long period of time and I would price it accordingly,work like that is cleaned for a fraction of the price it was 10 years ago and the world and his wife is after it and are willing to clean it for not a massive amount more than you'd be getting on smaller work. I would be a nervous wreck having a book full of work like that TBH you could lose half a years income in a dozen emails sacking you off it,I'm not being negative on purpose it happens and it's happened to WCs I know personally. Years ago if you cleaned a main Tescos store it would set you up for the week or even 2 weeks but those days are well and truly gone.

Przemek Jersz

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2016, 07:58:37 am »
I got the job!!! :) :o
12 months starting in january

cgh window cleaning

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2016, 08:01:25 am »
How much did you get it for?

Przemek Jersz

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2016, 09:36:00 am »
How much did you get it for?

for the price i quoted £1175 every 6 weeks

Tosh

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2016, 09:47:04 am »
Good news. Well done. Great feeling I bet.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

G Griffin

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2016, 09:54:53 am »
How much did you get it for?

for the price i quoted £1175 every 6 weeks
I thought it was every three months.
Well done, anyway; ever thought of canvassing full time, haha.
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sunshine windows

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2016, 10:00:21 am »
I got the job!!! :) :o
12 months starting in january

Well done 👍

Hope no one on here knows where you work, as you've just given all your competition a heads up
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(Swindon, Wiltshire)

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Shrek

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2016, 02:27:03 pm »
Awesome, well done!

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: priceing up-help!!
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2016, 02:56:48 pm »
well done if you get bogged down with it give me a shout and I will help you out if needed ,