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Alex Gardiner

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2016, 08:38:55 am »
what is the weight? Thanks

Official weights are:

Gooseneck Valve - 125g
Standard Angle Adapter - 97g

So a 28g difference in weight.

Not sure if M&C's weights were with hose?

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2016, 02:04:43 pm »
Hi Alex,

I weighed them on digital kitchen scales.

The regular gooseneck was the non swivel q-loq verision, the valve gooseneck was also the q-loq version but had the swivel attached so that probably accounts for the slightly bigger difference in weight between them. Neither had hoses attached

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2016, 02:19:04 pm »
Hi Alex,

I weighed them on digital kitchen scales.

The regular gooseneck was the non swivel q-loq verision, the valve gooseneck was also the q-loq version but had the swivel attached so that probably accounts for the slightly bigger difference in weight between them. Neither had hoses attached

The swivel will be the reason for the bigger gap in the weights.

I have worked with the Valve and a swivel fitted and it does work (as you have found) - just takes a good bit more thought.

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2016, 05:58:16 pm »
Hi Alex,

I weighed them on digital kitchen scales.

The regular gooseneck was the non swivel q-loq verision, the valve gooseneck was also the q-loq version but had the swivel attached so that probably accounts for the slightly bigger difference in weight between them. Neither had hoses attached

The swivel will be the reason for the bigger gap in the weights.

I have worked with the Valve and a swivel fitted and it does work (as you have found) - just takes a good bit more thought.

My work is entirely residential so virtually all first floor windows I clean have ledges. I find that by laying the brush on the ledge it becomes easy to turn on. Even where there are no ledges, it seems with the swivel, easier to turn on at the bottom of the window than at the top. In any case it hasn't slowed me down at all. So far I'm liking it a lot

Shrek

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2016, 06:28:02 pm »
Would this be good if you rinse on the glass?

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2016, 06:50:44 pm »
Would this be good if you rinse on the glass?

I rinse on the glass whenever I can and I haven't found it a problem yet. Mind you I haven't been collecting yet. They'll probably all say, 'There was this really weird brush shape on my windows'  ;D ;D

Shrek

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2016, 08:34:39 pm »
Would this be good if you rinse on the glass?

I rinse on the glass whenever I can and I haven't found it a problem yet. Mind you I haven't been collecting yet. They'll probably all say, 'There was this really weird brush shape on my windows'  ;D ;D

Lol , I'm really getting into this rinsing on at the minute- took the plunge and rinsed on , on every job this month . Shocking how much time and water is saved even though iv whacked my flow up to 55, what flow do you have yours on ?

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2016, 09:12:55 pm »
Would this be good if you rinse on the glass?

I rinse on the glass whenever I can and I haven't found it a problem yet. Mind you I haven't been collecting yet. They'll probably all say, 'There was this really weird brush shape on my windows'  ;D ;D

Lol , I'm really getting into this rinsing on at the minute- took the plunge and rinsed on , on every job this month . Shocking how much time and water is saved even though iv whacked my flow up to 55, what flow do you have yours on ?

I'm currently using a 5l/min pump and have my flow rate set to between 40 and 60%.  I'm currently using Gardiner's red fanjets but this flow rate was fine when I was using pencils as well

Shrek

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2016, 09:22:14 pm »
That's awesome, wish I'd learnt slot sooner! Which brush do you use? I'm using the ultimate medium , took a few days to get use to it as if still find crumbs on the glass after I'd finished, so I had to go over the glass another time to get rid . Not even felt soreness on my joints this month

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2016, 10:14:25 pm »
I currently use two. The Ultimate Med/Soft and the Flocked. I like the more direct feel on the glass the shorter bristles give.

As for 'crumbs' left on the glass, in my experience I don't think that's so much the brush as the amount of dirt on there in the first place or possibly dirt picked up off the ledges. It's a pain but that's just part of the job. In fact that's what usually determines whether I rinse on the glass or off on any given job. I can normally only get rid of those crumbs by rinsing off the glass. So if they appear, I rinse off and if they don't I rinse on. It mostly becomes a problem when I wipe badly contaminated ledges with the brush this time of year. So I try not to to if I can help it. Most of this type of dirt seems to collect on downstairs ledges so I usually use a short blade to wipe them off followed by a microfibre which brings them up nice.


scott

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2016, 05:56:58 pm »
Quote
I've got both....
Alex's valve will not work with the swivel and is a bit too stiff to operate, it may loosen with use.
As had been said they both have a place.
Tony

My Gooseneck valve was too tight to operate properly. Before I sent it back I took it apart and found that the cylindrical inner part with the seals on it had an imperfection at the very top near the white valve surface that was interfering with the smooth operation of the unit. I trimmed it off carefully with a Stanley knife and reassembled the unit and it worked perfectly. So if you have a really tight one it might be worth a look. Mine worked flawlessly all day today and I used it with a Q-Loq swivel with no problems.
how do you get to the seals?

If you do take it apart, be careful not to lose the two small springs or the small ball bearings. When reassembling it if you have any silicon grease to hand put a little in the grooves that the bearings slide in. This should also help loosen it a bit.

scott

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2016, 06:00:18 pm »
how do you get to check the seals?
mine was working fine when I bought it.but now I cant stop the waterflow now after about 1 month

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Gardiner goose neck valve
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2016, 06:23:50 pm »
how do you get to check the seals?
mine was working fine when I bought it.but now I cant stop the waterflow now after about 1 month

It sounds like one of the white valve discs inside has come out of its bed slightly. To check this, follow the video steps to take apart and then you can check to see if the white discs are correctly located.

https://youtu.be/RVW4eTnP1dc