[Nick Day]

Why sarcasm??  people on here are just looking for facts.

[Smurf]

Here is a fact for you Nick.... If you look at your vid you will see the end bit of guttering is not attached/seated properly to the downspout union clip so is going to leak anyway. 

[Tosh]

That can't be right, poorly seated and ill fitting swan necks and end caps, no, surely not.

[p1w1]

Why sarcasm??  people on here are just looking for facts.

people come on here to have a laugh, to slate someone and knock them down, to rip apart someones idea, to brag oh and to try and sell there products without having to pay for advertising   

[8weekly]

You never know what you're going to get on a gutter cleaning job until you start doing the work.

It's quite common for swan-necks to simply come apart when knocked, possibly because the down pipe has slipped, they weren't fitted and cut to the right length when originally installed or have moved over time or simply are unfit for purpose now. Show me a tool apart from a ladder that'll deal with those scenarios.

Same can be said for end-caps. Easily knocked off.

Do you use a vac Matt?

[Tosh]

Customer: Hello, is that the guttercleaningsystems people?

GCS: Yes, that's right madam.

Customer: I appear to have a leak from my first floor gutter, it's dripping water everywhere, right at the end, you know, by the pipe thingy bit that comes down the wall, outside.

GCS: Ah, righty, that sounds like a job for guttercleaningsystems bla bla bla and our super flexy coat hanger thingmajigbobsurunclewhatchamecallit.

Customer: Pardon?

GCS: No worry, we'll be along right away, we've got a new fangled deviceythingy that'll unblock anything downpipey thingy.

Customer: Oooo, marvellous, that sounds just the thing. My husband said it might be that the gutters have become dislodged though with all the weight of leaves in them for the past God knows how many years since they've been cleared and what with all that water in them as they've not been able to run empty. Surely won't the seals be a tad booggered?

GCS: Ummm, nooooo, no, I don't think so. Tell you what we'll get our coat hanger thingymabob out we'll give it a whirl, that'll sort it, regardless.........




2 weeks later. 

Customer: Hello, is that GCS? You know that coat-hanger thingymabob, well after it rained last night ......

[Tosh]

You never know what you're going to get on a gutter cleaning job until you start doing the work.

It's quite common for swan-necks to simply come apart when knocked, possibly because the down pipe has slipped, they weren't fitted and cut to the right length when originally installed or have moved over time or simply are unfit for purpose now. Show me a tool apart from a ladder that'll deal with those scenarios.

Same can be said for end-caps. Easily knocked off.

Do you use a vac Matt?

No.

[Nick Day]

I always ask the customer if they have a particular problem. If they say they have a leak I always tell them we will take a look to see if they have a pile up of muck causing it. If the gutter is okay we advise them they need a seal to contact out local plastics supplier and leave with no charge. Never lie to customers.
We did a job last week were the customer had water pouring over the gutter and it had rotted the wood on his window frame. When we looked a builder had left lumps of concrete in the gutter, the muck had built up and stopped the water flow. We vacced out, the small vac also lifted out the concrete. We got paid. We have never hade a call back...EVER

[Shrek]

It annoys me lots when I knock end caps off and the swan neck disconnects from the down pipe when gutter vacuuming, Gotta get me bloody ladders out after iv just explained to the custy that this 2grand piece of kit can sort anything out.. ffs and I'm not even joking. These device thingamajigs can only take you so far before you've got no choice but to do it by hand

[geri cheek]

that was a fake blocked swan neck,anybody can see that. a handlefull of  dry leaves  tucked in the neck wont fool  im afraid.   as said  erlier when a neck is really blocked  no  cheapo gizmo will do it

[Smurf]

Likewise Nick I always ask if they are having any issues and always conduct a full guttercam survey whilst on a quote. That way I can see what I’m up against and can find out and show them more often than not what is causing the issues.  Then it’s a simple case of pricing the job up accordingly or not wanting to do the job at all I will tell them .

Regards to repairs, gutter creep, new parts required etc that is quoted and charged separately if/ when required.  However If I feel the repair job is more hassle than it’s worth I will pass it on to one or more local firms to quote instead.

Using a guttervac I've found Its quite easy if not careful to damage unions, clips etc when using a guttervac especially if the gap is small even using the right size guttervac nozzle for the job. Not great if you have priced a job up to use a guttervac then go oops! how the hell am I going to sort that out...

Awkward access 2 storey and 3 storey got to be the worst ones to cockup methinks... Been there, done that, YEEHA! 


 

[Nick Day]

Geri cheek  I am 67 years old and left school in 1965 with 2 "O" levels. I neither have the ability, desire or the energy to fake anything, and if I was to fake anything it would be something far more valuable than a device for clearing muck out of gutters.
That bit of film was done two weeks ago (ignore the camera date) at the property of a lady who is a professor at the U.E.A. She was fascinated when I showed her the downpipe clearer and immediately saw that it was an obvious way to clean bends. This technology has been used for years, we have simply miniaturised a technology to be used at height for gutters that has been and is still used for clearing drain pipes.

[Smudger]

Most guttervac camera surveys I do it's very common to see one or more downspouts blocked.

To be honest most of the time I don't need to use ladders and/or have to take the joints apart. That's if I can get a guttervac downspout nozzle I made in and down to the first bend it can quickly sort any blockages out. Not only that it's a very quick way to test if it's free flowing or not by simply putting my ear to the downpipe and listing to the amount of air going through it. If the downpipe is open at the bottom you will hear a good volume of air rushing through it or not too

However on awkward access when ladders are not a safe option and/or the joints are fixed sold like cast iron ones etc if that don't work I will try to jet them clear first using tap pressure using a hose pipe and cone nozzle attached to the top of a wfp. Then if that fails the last resort is to use a pressure washer drain jetter to try to jet them clear.

Giving away all the secrets papa

[Smudger]

that was a fake blocked swan neck,anybody can see that. a handlefull of  dry leaves  tucked in the neck wont fool  im afraid.   as said  erlier when a neck is really blocked  no  cheapo gizmo will do it

How dare you suggest that !!! It was for demonstration purposes don't you know - - fair play and credit where it's due it's a new idea in gutter clearing and maybe after some developement it will be essential part of gutter clearing

Darran

[sunshine windows]

I would have thought the last thing you'd want to do in gutter clearing is force the blockage further down the downpipes.

[Nick Day]

It doesn't force the blockage down, it cuts through it bringing most of it up. Then you can either wash it with a hose or we just leave it till the next rainfall, we've never been called back yet!! We had a job this morning with 9 blocked swan necks which were all glued together, they were cleared in 10 minutes.