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Nick Day

Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2016, 06:44:03 pm »
 Darren,   

You just posted an absolute blatant lie, very disappointed!!

Smudger

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Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2016, 07:54:09 pm »
What lie is that ?

I was there - were you ?

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Dave Willis

Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2016, 08:19:32 pm »
 :o

Does the 1250 have a cyclonic inlet?

I use a Nilfisk 1800 (I think) it's ok but soon loses power once the filter gets splattered.

Nick Day

Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2016, 09:40:53 am »
The building was approx. 25' across. It had about 10' of gutter then a right angle to 3' of gutter. It had two runs of this either side of making approx. 26' of guttering. Both approx. 13' runs were as  jam packed, as bad as I have ever seen.
We never go out and quote, we have a fixed price range and stick to it with no "extras". We always make sure we do the job.
The building faced on to a slope, 5 x 5' poles one end to 6 x 5' poles the other. It opened directly on to a concrete drive which was also an access drive to a communal car park. We never carry ladders, but they were out of the question anyway.
The gutters had less than an inch of gap between the tiles and outer edge of gutter.
The root ball was the full length of gutter both sides, completely filling the gutter, and it all had to come through a less than 1" gap, had the roots been very wet it would have been easier as they would have been more pliable but they were only slightly damp which made them far harder to work on.
Suction was out of the question, but because of our extremely rigid, light and strong poles we were able to work the whole lot out with our downpipe fork (probably one of the most effective gutter clearing tools available.) we gave the gutters a  vacuum before leaving, to clear any loose dirt left.
I had and still have never met Darren. I saw him arrive, he was still there when we left about 10 minutes later. I honestly thought he was a double glazing salesman after all somebody has to pay for all that waffle, it was only when we in the van that Alex had recognised him from a picture he had seen and mentioned it to me.
So yes Darren I was there and I know you were, but it is like my late father-in-law used to say "there's them that talk a good job and there's them that do a good job.


Nick Day

Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2016, 10:53:24 am »
Hello Dave

Sorry I should have said, No we cut off the angled inlet and put a baffle about 4" back which allows all the muck to hit and fall into the tub.
Cyclonic inlets are simply a marketing tool and expensive add on, they certainly do not create a cyclonic effect (perhaps only on your pocket).
It took Dyson over 2000 attempts to create his cyclonic effects and that only applies to dust particles.


Dave Willis

Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2016, 05:53:39 pm »
Hello Dave

Sorry I should have said, No we cut off the angled inlet and put a baffle about 4" back which allows all the muck to hit and fall into the tub.
Cyclonic inlets are simply a marketing tool and expensive add on, they certainly do not create a cyclonic effect (perhaps only on your pocket).
It took Dyson over 2000 attempts to create his cyclonic effects and that only applies to dust particles.

Interesting, most of the competition seem to claim an increase in suction using this method. Good idea adding a baffle 'cos most vacs come supplied with a ninety degree deflector on the inlet which is pretty useless for our needs but without it the filter is in direct line of fire.

Nick Day

Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2016, 05:58:05 pm »
That's exactly what we found Dave, we actually started out with a Numatic with the cyclonic inlet (Polarbrite with the adapted Waterfed pole if anyone remembers it). We didn't find any difference between that and a standard inlet. I think the difference is that we adapt our machines for gutter cleaning whereas others don't.

Smurf

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Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2016, 06:30:15 pm »
I was doing a wee job today and hardly anything in the gutters but still did them anyway as was partially blocked. Also checked the downspouts where unblocked too.  Easy 100 for one hour work  but then was asked to do the plastics that seemed to take forever so as you do underpriced it as was on the hop so another 100 for twice as long.  :'(

No disrespect nick but I would not want to use a small single motor vac day after day as would do my head in






Nick Day

Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2016, 06:46:22 pm »
You are so right about the fascia's compared to emptying. Customers expect the out sides to be cheaper then the emptying.
As for the vacs, it's what ever suits you.

Stoots

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Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2016, 08:38:01 pm »
I have one of your 1250 machine nick and it does a decent job.

I still have to question your video though, i cant see the machine in the video?

sunshine windows

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Re: Gutter Vac video
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2016, 09:28:20 pm »
Nick,

What comes in your tool set for gutter clearing and how much. I'm very interested.

Send me a link on 07717756357 or lance@sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk

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