[nathankaye]

So ive started a little cheap in a side line of doing pressure washing. I have a 6.5hp 200bar but only 8lpm.
Now its done me well and im starting to save for a better machine.  In the meantime i can get a different pump but i loose pressure but gain more water output. Pressure drops to about 150bar but 12-15lpm (cannot remember which at mo).
My question is, is it worth swapping pressure output for water output??

[Kev Martin]

Ring Ben at Rutland or talk to Chris Scott

[Mike Halliday]

With your machine I think it's a bit like driving a bus

You can have a 30 seater that travels at 35mph or a 15 seater that has a top speed of 70mph in the end you will get the same amount of passengers getting to their destination  at the same time,

If your pump is working perfectly why change it? Save the money towards the better machine

[Mike Halliday]

Another thing to consider is the exact reason I'm now typing a second reply.....

More flow equals more water usage so the customers tap might not be able to keep up, so you have to keep stopping so the barrel/ bowser/wheelybin can refill.

Have you checked you are using your machine to it full potential ? When working have you checked to see if you are still bypassing some water back into the tank, you jets might not match your pump output. How do you know the working pressure does it have a gauge?

[waterforce]

Sell your machine ...combine this with the money you have saved for your pump (£300?) and by a decent s/hand 3000psi 15lpm .

[Smurf]

For me my preferred washer for small domestic stuff I like to use  is a dual pumps delta 15lpm pressure washer that I bought used in good condition from fleebay for £250. That also came with an 18" whirlaway included in the price.

Just goes to show you don't have to spend a fortune if you a fortunate to pick up a bargain like that.

[CleanClear]

So ive started a little cheap in a side line of doing pressure washing. I have a 6.5hp 200bar but only 8lpm.
Now its done me well and im starting to save for a better machine.  In the meantime i can get a different pump but i loose pressure but gain more water output. Pressure drops to about 150bar but 12-15lpm (cannot remember which at mo).
My question is, is it worth swapping pressure output for water output??

Are you sure you can get a different pump for it ? Reason i ask is most of them small 6.5HP/8lpm machines have a solid crank with a threaded bolt on the end to secure pump drive. Most of the aftermarket pumps come with a key way and are set up slightly different. In general they're not compatible.

[nathankaye]

So ive started a little cheap in a side line of doing pressure washing. I have a 6.5hp 200bar but only 8lpm.
Now its done me well and im starting to save for a better machine.  In the meantime i can get a different pump but i loose pressure but gain more water output. Pressure drops to about 150bar but 12-15lpm (cannot remember which at mo).
My question is, is it worth swapping pressure output for water output??

Are you sure you can get a different pump for it ? Reason i ask is most of them small 6.5HP/8lpm machines have a solid crank with a threaded bolt on the end to secure pump drive. Most of the aftermarket pumps come with a key way and are set up slightly different. In general they're not compatible.

Sadly i didnt know enough and wanted something to handle small drives of my existing clients. Also didnt eant to spend too much either. Spent around 280 on a wolf 200bar,  thought to good to be true. But since my contact with the supplier they have changed their wording on the advertisement.
Ive had to replace the pump nearly 3 times with supplier. Seals are breaking and water is mixing with oil in pump or it kept loosing pressure.  (I understand its a china make, which explains alot)  when it works, it works really well. So thinking engine is sound, pump not so much. So change pump.  Seen an intrim pump for a 6.5hp but its a loss of psi.
There lies my question. Do i just put up with it for now till i save more from pw jobs or switch pump and replace whole unit later. (Sadly i search net and im one of those guys who somehow doesnt find the bargains, ie 2nd machine)

[Kev Martin]

So ive started a little cheap in a side line of doing pressure washing. I have a 6.5hp 200bar but only 8lpm.
Now its done me well and im starting to save for a better machine.  In the meantime i can get a different pump but i loose pressure but gain more water output. Pressure drops to about 150bar but 12-15lpm (cannot remember which at mo).
My question is, is it worth swapping pressure output for water output??

Are you sure you can get a different pump for it ? Reason i ask is most of them small 6.5HP/8lpm machines have a solid crank with a threaded bolt on the end to secure pump drive. Most of the aftermarket pumps come with a key way and are set up slightly different. In general they're not compatible.

Sadly i didnt know enough and wanted something to handle small drives of my existing clients. Also didnt eant to spend too much either. Spent around 280 on a wolf 200bar,  thought to good to be true. But since my contact with the supplier they have changed their wording on the advertisement.
Ive had to replace the pump nearly 3 times with supplier. Seals are breaking and water is mixing with oil in pump or it kept loosing pressure.  (I understand its a china make, which explains alot)  when it works, it works really well. So thinking engine is sound, pump not so much. So change pump.  Seen an intrim pump for a 6.5hp but its a loss of psi.
There lies my question. Do i just put up with it for now till i save more from pw jobs or switch pump and replace whole unit later. (Sadly i search net and im one of those guys who somehow doesnt find the bargains, ie 2nd machine)

Nathan

Instead of messing around why don't you either hire a machine for bigger jobs until you have enough to buy one.  Or get a loan to buy a decent  machine or buy one using a lease plan?  Yes it will cost you a little more but think of all the messing about it will save and the down time fixing crap.  Have you asked Ben at Rutland if he has a second hand decent machine?  We offer lease purchase as well if you want to get some figures.

Kevin

[nathankaye]

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Nathan

Instead of messing around why don't you either hire a machine for bigger jobs until you have enough to buy one.  Or get a loan to buy a decent  machine or buy one using a lease plan?  Yes it will cost you a little more but think of all the messing about it will save and the down time fixing crap.  Have you asked Ben at Rutland if he has a second hand decent machine?  We offer lease purchase as well if you want to get some figures.

Kevin

Cheers kevin, i would appreciate some figures of the lease purchase. My email is
1nks.services@gmail. Com

[Plankton]

With your machine I think it's a bit like driving a bus

You can have a 30 seater that travels at 35mph or a 15 seater that has a top speed of 70mph in the end you will get the same amount of passengers getting to their destination  at the same time,

If your pump is working perfectly why change it? Save the money towards the better machine

Your math is crap Mike! 

[Kev Martin]

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Nathan

Instead of messing around why don't you either hire a machine for bigger jobs until you have enough to buy one.  Or get a loan to buy a decent  machine or buy one using a lease plan?  Yes it will cost you a little more but think of all the messing about it will save and the down time fixing crap.  Have you asked Ben at Rutland if he has a second hand decent machine?  We offer lease purchase as well if you want to get some figures.

Kevin

Cheers kevin, i would appreciate some figures of the lease purchase. My email is
1nks.services@gmail. Com

Nathan

I can't quote you any figures without knowing what you want, over how long and deposit.
Call me on 07770598855 after Monday 5th because we are closed for stocktaking

[Yada Yada Yada - www.m-clean.uk]

Here's a bargain for domestic works. See through how the machine is now.

Get rid of the stupid water tank on the top. Get it serviced. Machine for life.

eBay item number:272352070337

I've still got a 170 bar, 15LPM Hilta Yanmar in the unit, as a back up back up. Had it 8 years.

With the H & M waiting for a new head set and fuel line issues with the latest machine  I needed it last week.

Bar or LPM = Both.

When you jump up to 15LPM, 21 LPM, 30 LPM @ 200 bar etc the speed of cleaning increases massively but you have to feed that and without a good water supply the machine is pointless.

Same machine with 300 - 500 bar pump will have a lower flow rate  so use less water but the water it is using will hit the surface harder.

I have an ICM Contractor, from Lee Kenny, 200 bar @ 40LPM, I can get a Speck pump up to about 1000 bar to fit the machine and use less water. (down to about 12 -15 LPM

Will it clean any quicker - I'll let you know when I get the H & M back and I buy the pump.

I don't know whether anyone has done any real life testing of two machines set up, one on flow and the second on pressure.

I've always been of the thinking that more flow is better.

I sell my service in getting in, getting done and getting out of the way, with as little disruption as possible. I tell the client it will be disruptive but that will be minimised by the short amount of time it will take.

[Steve Lowe]

Could you advise please

Would a machine 170 bar 13 ltrs a minute be good enough for occasional patio cleaning ?

[alireza]

Hi

I also have a question please

I have a cold system do I really need a hot box I can get a cheap one up to 95 degree but the one goes up to 150 are very expensive
Thank You

[nathankaye]

Could you advise please

Would a machine 170 bar 13 ltrs a minute be good enough for occasional patio cleaning ?

Yes n hypo will finish the rest!

[Steve Lowe]

Hypo ??

[Smurf]

Or fondly known as Yehaa as many cowboys use it.
I could have used a sodium hypochlorite mix today on some block pavers and slabs but thought stuff it I just cant be arsed to put me spurs and cowboy hat on. Instead I would just blasted crap everywhere with a turbo nozzle just for the craic 

[chris scott]

Hi

I also have a question please

I have a cold system do I really need a hot box I can get a cheap one up to 95 degree but the one goes up to 150 are very expensive
Thank You

Generally speaking none of them do 150c most get to around 85/90c .

[alireza]

Thank You