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nathankaye

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Re: FSC
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2016, 06:30:13 pm »
Escape clauses..........erm which supplier tells their client this, or is it in the extremely small print of the small print. i know when i placed my order at a previous property i certainly wasnt informed of any clauses.
2nd to that, the dangers in which you are refering to "chlorine bleach" is on the basis that we are complete numpties and are not aware of the dangers and we sllow our clients to come out bare foot and dance the jig in the garden whilst we are working. Though i do love watching the dogs come running/hoping on the drives whilst im brushing my chemicals all over the place......
Im sure your sales pitches work and im very pleased for you. But ......
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nathankaye

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Re: FSC
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2016, 06:33:18 pm »
Plus we take the cowboy approach. We are employed by the client, whos responsibilty it is to ask/ensure that they are knowledgable when employing people to do their cleaning for them.   ::)roll
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Smurf

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Re: FSC
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2016, 07:15:35 pm »
Don't you start as was just settling down  ;D ;D

nathankaye

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Re: FSC
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2016, 07:36:13 pm »
Don't you start as was just settling down  ;D ;D

Lol, i have won the "wooden spoon" before, for stiring  ;D
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Kev Martin

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Re: FSC
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2016, 10:49:34 pm »
kev
we find softwash very effective on render but not so much on blocks? 

what mix are you using , we mix at about 4litres of hypo at 14% and 125ml of soap 21litres of water?

john

John

The big difference with using a Mono Rotary Scrubber is that you are not blasting the sh*t out of the surface.

To clean using a Mono Rotary Scrubber you need to ensure you have the correct brush fitted for the surface.  Coupled with the correct cleaner diluted accordingly.  This gives you a chemical and mechanical clean especially if you use Honing Powder as well as then you have chemical, mechanical and abrasive clean all in one.

The method is

1.  Pre wet the surface so it is saturated with clean water.
2.  Fill the MRS Water Tank with the appropriate cleaner for the surface.  ( So either PSRP Heavy Duty XTreme  High Alkaline or Miracle Heavy Duty Acidic Cleaner diluted according to the level of soiling.)  Then apply to whole section or area and allow to dwell.
3.  Agitate with MRS fitted with appropriate brush and then extract.
4.  Rinse with clean water and extract again.

If stage 3 does not do the job you can carry out 2 further steps by:

a.  Increasing the cleaner to water ratio
b.  Add honing powder

However, I will point out you should know all this in advance by carrying out a " Small Test Area"  beforehand.

I

My opinion is you are lying, I don't believe you......  me being a moderator has no relevance on my beliefs.

 I also find your post to be insulting to all the professional pressure washing companies who  post on here, who are  pressure washing  outside areas every day,  of every week  every year........not just doing little test areas then spouting how it should be done.

My biggest worry is a new starter reads yours post above and orders all the chemicals & equipment you recommend.

I'm not a hard floor restorer , I'm a pressure washing company who has done more pressure washing this week that I believe you have done in your life ( based on the nonsense you talk about it)

When it comes to cleaning outside areas You type intelligent crap, it reads well and sounds like you know what you are on about but it's still crap and you might think you are getting away with it but the guys who are doing this work full time recognise it as the crap it is.
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Frankly your opinion and a further accusation of me lying is nothing short of laughable.  You are a carpet cleaner who does some pressure washing.  I have owned and operated more pressure washers than you have seen.  Our first proper pressure washer was a Falch F2 300 Bar 21lpm bought used when it was 5 years old.  I sold that nearly 7 years ago after over 5 years of PW ing christ knows how many M2 of drives, houses, commercials and petrol forcourts.  Then I bought a T3  along with 2 Honda gx 13hp and then an Aguila using all of them for years alongside our flourishing cleaning and restoration business earning a very profitable living with them.  You haven't got a clue!  I pay more for my shoes than that Heath Robinson Affair on the back of an excuse for a trailer being towed by a Circus Van you laughably call a PW. ;D  No your not a Hard Floor Restorer but your not a PW Expert either
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Kev Martin

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Re: FSC
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2016, 11:03:12 pm »
Mike

Incidentally having read your cynical posts you clearly don't understand me or my business and have no respect either! Your opinions of myself and others on here who have left is nothing short of disgusting. Your misguided belief that we as a company try to curry favour with the likes of you or need to post advice to try and increase sales with members of the CIU is frankly insulting and rude so you continue to use your bleach and your cheapskate methods until your heart is content  ;D ??? ???
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Mike Halliday

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Re: FSC
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2016, 06:15:10 am »
Gosh!! 2 great post Kev,.......... l love the 'paying more for your shoes than my machine cost' comment it made me smile, I'd love to see a pair of those great shoes I bet they are hand stitched from the skins of baby  pandas :D

 2 great post but still Full of your usually rubbish but still a good read , just on the way to the gym so haven't the time to answer your many points, I might answer later but really you don't have to convince me you are a power washing professional  I know you talk rubbish and you can type to your hearts content about your vast  experiance but your original post where some one asks about FSC  on blocks and  you spout on about using honing powders and acid high acid/ alkaline cleaners destroys any credibility you have.

Type as much as you like,  it's water of a ducks back to me I've been here a long time, I  know BS  when I read it

Mike

Incidentally having read your cynical posts you clearly don't understand me or my business and have no respect either! Your opinions of myself and others on here who have left is nothing short of disgusting. Your misguided belief that we as a company try to curry favour with the likes of you or need to post advice to try and increase sales with members of the CIU is frankly insulting and rude so you continue to use your bleach and your cheapskate methods until your heart is content  ;D ??? ???
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Smurf

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Re: FSC
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2016, 11:20:44 am »
Hypo (SH) is actually an alkaline cleaner and disinfectant to boot...YEHAA!  ;D ;D ;D

How hypo works on surfaces it starts to neutralise on contact of grime within the dwell time. That is why sometimes needs to be reapplied and is fully neutralised within 30-60 mins depending what strength of mix you use. The reason why it's washed off a surface is not because it will do any damage in most cases but to simply wash the grim away so leaving the surface clean.

Used responsibly i.e. right method used to apply and at the right ratio mix for different surfaces/substrates sh based products have proven to be safe and cost effective way of cleaning a variety of outdoor hard surfaces including render, cladding  etc on buildings for many years.

Kev if SH was so dangerous the likes of Benz would not be approved by HSE now would they?
Even smartseals new products contain SH and many other supplier brands too... go figure  ::)roll

Can I ask what's in your so say new wet&forget product?


 


Kev Martin

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Re: FSC
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2016, 03:49:17 pm »
Gosh!! 2 great post Kev,.......... l love the 'paying more for your shoes than my machine cost' comment it made me smile, I'd love to see a pair of those great shoes I bet they are hand stitched from the skins of baby  pandas :D

 2 great post but still Full of your usually rubbish but still a good read , just on the way to the gym so haven't the time to answer your many points, I might answer later but really you don't have to convince me you are a power washing professional  I know you talk rubbish and you can type to your hearts content about your vast  experiance but your original post where some one asks about FSC  on blocks and  you spout on about using honing powders and acid high acid/ alkaline cleaners destroys any credibility you have.

Type as much as you like,  it's water of a ducks back to me I've been here a long time, I  know BS  when I read it

Mike

Incidentally having read your cynical posts you clearly don't understand me or my business and have no respect either! Your opinions of myself and others on here who have left is nothing short of disgusting. Your misguided belief that we as a company try to curry favour with the likes of you or need to post advice to try and increase sales with members of the CIU is frankly insulting and rude so you continue to use your bleach and your cheapskate methods until your heart is content  ;D ??? ???

" I know Bullpoop when I read it"

I am not surprised, you type enough of it sunshine! ::)roll ::)roll

l love the 'paying more for your shoes than my machine cost' comment it made me smile, I'd love to see a pair of those great shoes I bet they are hand stitched from the skins of baby  pandas :D

Actually having done a quick search on you, your company and a few of your previous posts on here I would like to withdraw  the word "shoes" and change it to my "Shoe Trees" ;D ;D ;D




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Smurf

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Re: FSC
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2016, 04:32:25 pm »
Is it just me thinking we have strayed off topic a wee bit chaps?
What the devil has shoes got to do with the op? 
Anyway before anyone asks I prefer to wear wellies myself ;D ;D

waterforce

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Re: FSC
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2016, 09:25:47 pm »
I have been on here a very long time and I know bull5poop when I hear it....my shoes are handmade.

Smurf

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Re: FSC
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2016, 04:33:21 pm »
ban him  ;D ;D

Matt.

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Re: FSC
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2016, 07:00:10 pm »
To the op's question

I use hypo at 15%, I don't have a set mixture but normally go with 1/3 of barrell (20l ) to a trad bucket of water with some fairy. The fairy just helps it stick and foams up so looks better.
I will pre wet the area then brush in my hypo mix, give about 15 -20 mins and then go over it with fsc, then lance the edges whilst rinsing off. If u see a bad patch then just apply hypo to it and leave to dwell as working.

I do get what kev says, as using a mono would agitate it into the surface giving a better end result

Mike Halliday

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Re: FSC
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2016, 10:14:36 am »
Nothing to do with the question,  just a bit of shoe porn for Kev (who appreciates quality footwear)  :D

**no pandas where harmed in the making of these boots**




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Kev Martin

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Re: FSC
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2016, 08:27:51 pm »
Nothing to do with the question,  just a bit of shoe porn for Kev (who appreciates quality footwear)  :D

**no pandas where harmed in the making of these boots**



Nice boots but not my cup of tea!  They look like a pair of Lynn Beatle style boots I used to have but a long time ago!
Are they yours?
Who made them?  They look a a little like Ted Greens style
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Mike Halliday

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Re: FSC
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2016, 09:54:50 pm »
They are my mainstay winter boot, you mentioning shoe trees reminded me I had a pair in them which I need for another pair of shoes

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Kev Martin

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Re: FSC
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2016, 11:43:21 pm »
Yes I quite like that dainite / commando type sole on my Brogues.  A fortune to get replaced but great for wet weather
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Smurf

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Re: FSC
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2016, 11:52:49 pm »
get a room girls  ;D

Kev Martin

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Re: FSC
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2016, 07:20:22 am »
get a room girls  ;D

Wyatt

This conversation is serious!  You should consider buying a pair like Mike, comfort unlimited and if they have the dainty sole it means they are Hypo proof as well.  The added bonus is you could probably slap a set of spurs on them as well!
However, be warned I don't think you will get these at Lidl ;D ;D

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nathankaye

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Re: FSC
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2016, 04:23:56 pm »
Each to their own, whatever floats your boat. Personnally, im not into foot/shoe fetishes   ;D  ;D
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