[ascjim]

I'm thinking of taking someone on just to quote domestic while i'll take care of commercial.

What I have in mind at the moment is to have someone self employed do 8 hours per week and then invoicing me at the end of each month.

What basic rate do you think is fare? £10 ph, then mileage? Then should I pay a % of got he gets and what would be the bets way to track that without too much effort?

This is only a temporary solution, next year I will employ someone to do this 16 hours.

[Ian Lancaster]

I'm thinking of taking someone on just to quote domestic while i'll take care of commercial.

What I have in mind at the moment is to have someone self employed do 8 hours per week and then invoicing me at the end of each month.

What basic rate do you think is fare? £10 ph, then mileage? Then should I pay a % of got he gets and what would be the bets way to track that without too much effort?

This is only a temporary solution, next year I will employ someone to do this 16 hours.

If I understand your post, you want to engage someone to service incoming domestic enquiries.  i.e. you pass the enquiry details to him, he goes and does the site survey and produces a quotation for the customer then the customer either accepts the quote and he passes it back to you as a confirmed job or leaves the quote with the customer for them to contact you later if they decide to go with it (or not)

If he is self employed then how can you fix his hours?  The hours he works will be as long as it takes him to follow up each enquiry you pass to him.  I would think the only way this could work would be for you and he to decide what hourly rate he should receive, and then he would submit a timesheet showing how long he spent in total servicing each enquiry and invoicing you accordingly.

Whether he obtains the job or not is immaterial, he puts in the time, you pay him.

[8weekly]

Why not just have standard prices then you don't need to go out to quote very often?

[Mick Kent]

If your chasing commercial work then your not busy enough which means you have time to give a simple quote for a domestic customer dont you? Its easy to give a rough price without seeing anyway if under 10 windows im roughly £10 if 10-20 windows then a score, anything higher  or customer says awkward i go and quote.
And as Ian said you cant control anyones hours if they are self employed which im shocked a "business man" like yourself wouldn't know already! Doing it that way would make them employed.

[Mick Kent]

Also you have loads of time on your hands already James dont you from your post in feb only doing a few computer hours a day??....


The holiday and sick comes out of the profit.

They get paid £10.00 per hour = £80.00 per day.
 
2 man van takes a bare minimum of £300.00 so £140.00 profit for the day.
Some gutter days it can go to £400 - £500 and the best I've had from one van is around £900.00

I only have 3 guys. In 2 vans.

1 is working all the regular domestic work.
There other 2 also have regular domestic work, but have the gutter vac in the van.

So van 1 is always busy all year.
Van 2 takes all the new work coming in and big jobs.

I take £3000.00 a month and the rest stays in the business account.

I work 9-11 on the computer then go gym until 1 and then do quotes after if I need to.

All you need to do is plan your day / month / year in advance and set goals.

http://purewash.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/planning-goals.html

[ascjim]

I'm not too bothered with how many hours they do, just what to pay them.

All our customers require paper quotes and terms and conditions as we are Trading Standards Approved. Also, terms are a God send.

I want to trail it for a few months then I will decide whether to employ someone 16 hours just to quote or full time to quote, chase and do admin.

[ascjim]

Also you have loads of time on your hands already James dont you from your post in feb only doing a few computer hours a day??....


The holiday and sick comes out of the profit.

They get paid £10.00 per hour = £80.00 per day.
 
2 man van takes a bare minimum of £300.00 so £140.00 profit for the day.
Some gutter days it can go to £400 - £500 and the best I've had from one van is around £900.00

I only have 3 guys. In 2 vans.

1 is working all the regular domestic work.
There other 2 also have regular domestic work, but have the gutter vac in the van.

So van 1 is always busy all year.
Van 2 takes all the new work coming in and big jobs.

I take £3000.00 a month and the rest stays in the business account.

I work 9-11 on the computer then go gym until 1 and then do quotes after if I need to.

All you need to do is plan your day / month / year in advance and set goals.

http://purewash.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/planning-goals.html

And I want to work even less, wouldn't you?

I want to try franchising next and not have to go out quoting.

[ascjim]

If your chasing commercial work then your not busy enough which means you have time to give a simple quote for a domestic customer dont you? Its easy to give a rough price without seeing anyway if under 10 windows im roughly £10 if 10-20 windows then a score, anything higher  or customer says awkward i go and quote.
And as Ian said you cant control anyones hours if they are self employed which im shocked a "business man" like yourself wouldn't know already! Doing it that way would make them employed.

We are always chasing. We do more gutters, pressure washing and render cleaning then windows.

I only have 1 man cleaning domestic windows and the other 3 do the rest.

So you can imagine, we always need to fine work for the other 3 guys.

[SeanK]

Get yourself two 50inch flat screens and a remote drone, not only can you quote from the office but keep an eye on
your employees as well. lol.

[ascjim]

Get yourself two 50inch flat screens and a remote drone, not only can you quote from the office but keep an eye on
your employees as well. lol.

Lol.  With 10 vans or something?

[W.booler]

Get yourself two 50inch flat screens and a remote drone, not only can you quote from the office but keep an eye on
your employees as well. lol.
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Lol.  With 10 vans or something?

I don't know where you two live, but there's 5 million leaflets going out on your patch this weekend, for having the audacity to take the mick! 😂😂

[Tom-01]

Get yourself two 50inch flat screens and a remote drone, not only can you quote from the office but keep an eye on
your employees as well. lol.
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Lol.  With 10 vans or something?

I don't know where you two live, but there's 5 million leaflets going out on your patch this weekend, for having the audacity to take the mick! 😂😂

Thats ok, the leaflets can take all the custies they don't want!