[Suffolkcleaners]

Hi Guys,

Please bear with me as it's only my second year WFP so still learning a lot and have found this site brilliant for asking advice :-) Thanks for those who have helped answer questions up to now..

Right I am finally in a place where I can start making my own water as finally moving out my flat to a house that has a garage.

There is an outside tap on the side of the house but I wanted to put everything in the garage. Can you install a a tap in a garage quite easily?

I have no idea what system to get as i'm not practical at all so any responses please keep as simple as possible(bit embarrassing admitting that lol)

I would quite like a 1000 litre tank put in there so I always have a constant flow. Having said that i'm still not sure I would need that size a tank for my usage. I probably only use about 300 litres a day as I work from barrels but I may eventually move to the hose reel once I get my confidence up. So bearing this in mind I want the right system. I want to basically have enough to make up to 4-500 litres a day if necessary(just thinking if I ever moved over to the hose reel and business picked up.)

I've looked at the pure freedom RO300(a mate has that) but wondering what would be the best for a single garage set up. I'm just concerned about getting a tap fitted in there as don't want hose trailing from the kitchen to the garage.

Would someone be kind enough to give me a step by step guide(For dummies Lol) what exactly I need to buy and how much roughly for everything. Also how long would it take to buy and set up? Could this be done in a space of a few days? I don't want to spend a fortune but at the same time if it's worth investing a bit more to save me paying out more long term then i'm open to ideas.

Thanks guys and any input would be fab.

[Matt.]

Am no expert but .......

Depending on were ur kitchen is and how you want to go about it, an external tap kit will cost up around £15, u will also need a drill bit long enough to go through the brick and block to feed hose through.

If it was me and I already had an outside tap like in my garden, and I wanted it round the side of the house in the drive, I would simply fit some trunking along the outside wall ( like what electricians use ) and run the hose through it to were I was going to have the tap, clip the front on the trunking and it's nice and tidy. Could even fit a second tap if u wanted to

[SeanK]

Its a hard one to advise on without knowing the layout, if the garage is detached and a distance from the closest mains pipe
then it might be better to dig a trench and bury the pipe under the ground, just make sure its deep enough not to freeze in
winter, remember you will also need drainage in the garage for the RO waste.

[Don Kee]

Its easy enough to fit a tap as long as you have a cold water pipe around

I dont have a tap in the garage, but have split the hose (y piece with two taps) from the tap feeding the dishwasher in the adjouning utility room

Get the IBC, you may not need it but you may in the future. Also the smaller RO's are slow producing water so at least you'll have some in storage just incase you need more water

Get a 450gpd R.O with a booster pump (recommend the aquatec 8800)
Again, it maybe slight overkill for now, but its a case of future proofing
The 450 will be slowish but the 300 will be sllooooooooowwww

First and foremost though, get a TDS metre and find out your ingoing PPM. If its low enough you may find you dont need an RO, just a resin vessel... (Less than 80ish ppm)

If you find you need an RO then check your water pressure and it'll help you decide what you need


And just incase you aint sure on RO's and what they do...

Tap water - RO(takes around 95%) from your water - Resin (polishes off the rest) - storage tank

You'll need a highish water pressure for your RO to work efficiently hence the booster pump i suggested above

RO 101 over...

[Suffolkcleaners]

Thanks guys,

So if you were me would you have it at the side of the house where the outside tap is? Would it just need to be connected to the one tap and then fill up barrels from there? or not as simple as that?

I only thought the garage would be ideal to stop freezing in winter.

It doesn't sound as simple as just plugging into outside tap though and doing from the side of the house.

The tap is on the right hand side of the house as you look at it and the detached single garage is at the front left of the house as you look at it. Shame it's not on the other side..

So to have in the garage how would I get the hose/cables from the kitchen to garage? I thought installing a tap in the garage would mean I could keep everything in the garage without having to feed hose through etc? Is that not right?

[Smurf]

If you own/ buying the property water, power and drainage utilities can be put anywhere within reason on your property. However after saying that if you are looking for a permanent solution then needs to be done properly within the current regs so best get a few quotes from qualified respective tradesmen if you want all three utilities put in the garage. Cost wise that will also be down to how much groundwork etc is involved too.

 

[Ian Lancaster]

Thanks guys,

So if you were me would you have it at the side of the house where the outside tap is? Would it just need to be connected to the one tap and then fill up barrels from there? or not as simple as that?

I only thought the garage would be ideal to stop freezing in winter.

It doesn't sound as simple as just plugging into outside tap though and doing from the side of the house.

The tap is on the right hand side of the house as you look at it and the detached single garage is at the front left of the house as you look at it. Shame it's not on the other side..

So to have in the garage how would I get the hose/cables from the kitchen to garage? I thought installing a tap in the garage would mean I could keep everything in the garage without having to feed hose through etc? Is that not right?

Is there mains water in any of the ground floor rooms on the left of your house?  If so it would be a simple job for you or a plumber to access that supply through the house wall and put a tap on the outside.  From there you can either install a fixed supply into your garage or as Don Kee suggested, a 'Y' fitting on the tap and a hose into the garage

[Matt.]

All will work, and again depends if u want to spend a lot

If I was in ur situation, for now I would set up in garage and run hose round from were tap is, u could tac the hose along the bottom of the wall and round the corner, to keep it nice and neat, it would have to cross the floor to get to the garage tho, if the floor is soil then just dig a chanel out and some plastic pipe for hose to run through and bury it.

I think for now the most important thing is to get the RO set up and working, u could have it running and fill 2 ibc tanks, that way u would have plenty incase of emergency. These can be picked up for around £30 each

Once up and running u can see how u want to go about sorting a long term water supply out

[richard groves]

All will work, and again depends if u want to spend a lot

If I was in ur situation, for now I would set up in garage and run hose round from were tap is, u could tac the hose along the bottom of the wall and round the corner, to keep it nice and neat, it would have to cross the floor to get to the garage tho, if the floor is soil then just dig a chanel out and some plastic pipe for hose to run through and bury it.

I think for now the most important thing is to get the RO set up and working, u could have it running and fill 2 ibc tanks, that way u would have plenty incase of emergency. These can be picked up for around £30 each

Once up and running u can see how u want to go about sorting a long term water supply out

Good advice. 

[Suffolkcleaners]

Thanks guys. Ian there is no nails water on the left hand side as you look at it. The kitchen is quite near the hallway which has an integral door to the garage but nit great having hoses trailing in and out of kitchen.

Thanks Matt,so would you run the hose from the kitchen or all the way around from the other side of house to garage? I'm assuming it's nit that simple just installing a tap in the garage and paying for a plumber to do so?

Thanks don also. Splitting hose and tap etc is all new to me. Not remotely practical lol

[Suffolkcleaners]

*mains water not nails* sorry predicted text!

[nathankaye]

I have a small garden and mrs didnt want what little space we had to be taken up by a black 1000ltr tank. So i jept my ro unit in my van and ran a hose into van (parked in grounds at rear) which seated a 500ltr tank. Each night i faffed for ages sorting out tds creep etc before i could run thru di vessel into tank. After several months of this, i had enough and got the black 1000 ibc tank.
Now i run maybe 4/5meter hose from an outside tap, thru a small hole in wall to my ro unit by bk window (inside home) and with use of a booster pump, fill up my 1000 litre tank, after i fill my 500l tank in van.
Instead of faffing each night, once a week i connect the hose and for a 24hr period run my ro unit.

So dont stress bud, esp for connecting the hose perhaps for one day in a week. Then disconnect hose n put back in shed. Job done

[SeanK]

I have a small garden and mrs didnt want what little space we had to be taken up by a black 1000ltr tank. So i jept my ro unit in my van and ran a hose into van (parked in grounds at rear) which seated a 500ltr tank. Each night i faffed for ages sorting out tds creep etc before i could run thru di vessel into tank. After several months of this, i had enough and got the black 1000 ibc tank.
Now i run maybe 4/5meter hose from an outside tap, thru a small hole in wall to my ro unit by bk window (inside home) and with use of a booster pump, fill up my 1000 litre tank, after i fill my 500l tank in van.
Instead of faffing each night, once a week i connect the hose and for a 24hr period run my ro unit.

So dont stress bud, esp for connecting the hose perhaps for one day in a week. Then disconnect hose n put back in shed. Job done

Don't understand why you found an in built van system a problem, I have a 650lt 4040 RO system in the van with exterior
van ports,
I connect the hose when I arrive home and fill the tank, everything is automatic including the water shutting off when the tank is filled, I then put the tank water through a DI as needed.
As a sole trader I wouldn't have it any other way, filling one tank to then transfer it to another just doesn't make sense for somebody working on their own unless they have no choice.

TDS creep is only a problem for people who for some reason think you need to purify the water in one go.