[Spruce]

think ill stick to my univalve if its any thing like the aquatap im out, my aqua tap was a nite mare water keeped turning off all the time  pxxxiss me off so much its now sat in the box of unwanted junk  lol , the only thing i can see thats different is it has a tenshioner to adjust the stiffness of the twist action not my cuppa t this one

I can understand how easy it is to be negative considering your previous experience with a similar concept.

I didn't buy an Aquatap because I perceived there would be issues in my application, but it was all based on theory. IMO some purchasers were fobbed of with unacceptable fixes, ie open it up and remove an O ring, open it up and remove grease, open it up and add grease, etc; depending on the nature of the complaint.

The same Mr Peter Fogwill also was the first to market a flow controller mounted on his brush. The concept was modified by Steve and the Aquadapter was the result - probably the best accessory invention ever for window cleaners at the time. I still believe it is far superior to the Uni-valve in so many ways. Its only downfall is it's weight.

Peter will still argue that his Aquatap is superior the Gardiners on/off rotary switch as his design allows for a reduced water flow. Gardiner's unit appears to be either on or off.

Mark Munro has had the 'tap' on test for around 9 months. He commented once that its concept was brilliant. I have to believe that this is a tried and tested accessory and on the basis of that I would order one and try it.
I like the idea of being able to adjust the tension, although I would always be looking for my allen key. I'm still not convinced that the rotary action is a good idea for me.

Alex did tell me once that it may not be to everyone's taste, but I guess that's the 'nature of the beast'. You can't please everyone all of the time, especially window cleaners.  (I guess Alex is no stranger to this as he supplies brushes.)

It has taken Alex a long time to give the go ahead for tool making and production so I would expect the financial commitment is huge. If he wasn't 100% happy, I doubt he would make a commitment like this.

What we also don't see is the much bigger picture. Steve Jones says he has patented the pull on/off hose concept. I doubt Peter Fogwill will have patented a rotary on/off tap concept so this leaves a void to be filled now which can be improved in the future as did the Aquadaptor to Uni-Valve.

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[Rob clarke]

Think it should be good with a tensioner on it tbh

[Alex Gardiner]

think ill stick to my univalve if its any thing like the aquatap im out, my aqua tap was a nite mare water keeped turning off all the time  pxxxiss me off so much its now sat in the box of unwanted junk  lol , the only thing i can see thats different is it has a tenshioner to adjust the stiffness of the twist action not my cuppa t this one

I can understand how easy it is to be negative considering your previous experience with a similar concept.

I didn't buy an Aquatap because I perceived there would be issues in my application, but it was all based on theory. IMO some purchasers were fobbed of with unacceptable fixes, ie open it up and remove an O ring, open it up and remove grease, open it up and add grease, etc; depending on the nature of the complaint.

The same Mr Peter Fogwill also was the first to market a flow controller mounted on his brush. The concept was modified by Steve and the Aquadapter was the result - probably the best accessory invention ever for window cleaners at the time. I still believe it is far superior to the Uni-valve in so many ways. Its only downfall is it's weight.

Peter will still argue that his Aquatap is superior the Gardiners on/off rotary switch as his design allows for a reduced water flow. Gardiner's unit appears to be either on or off.

Mark Munro has had the 'tap' on test for around 9 months. He commented once that its concept was brilliant. I have to believe that this is a tried and tested accessory and on the basis of that I would order one and try it.
I like the idea of being able to adjust the tension, although I would always be looking for my allen key. I'm still not convinced that the rotary action is a good idea for me.

Alex did tell me once that it may not be to everyone's taste, but I guess that's the 'nature of the beast'. You can't please everyone all of the time, especially window cleaners.  (I guess Alex is no stranger to this as he supplies brushes.)

It has taken Alex a long time to give the go ahead for tool making and production so I would expect the financial commitment is huge. If he wasn't 100% happy, I doubt he would make a commitment like this.

What we also don't see is the much bigger picture. Steve Jones says he has patented the pull on/off hose concept. I doubt Peter Fogwill will have patented a rotary on/off tap concept so this leaves a void to be filled now which can be improved in the future as did the Aquadaptor to Uni-Valve.

Always enjoy reading your well considered posts Spruce 

I just wanted to mention that this product has been designed, developed and manufactured with Peter Fogwill from the beginning. You could say that this is a Gardiner Gooseneck Valve with 'Aquatap Technology' inside.

It has taken a long time to get the product to this stage along with the various Patents and Protection needed for them. Neither of us has been in a hurry - we would rather get it right the first time with this product.

It is a very integrated design to reduce the niggles usually associated with after-market products.

It will not suit everyone in their preferences, but does give a different option for those that like this type of simple twist action. For some the action of the Aquadapter or the new Uni-Valve will be preferable, but it does at least give users more options. For those that like a single button option the new WFP link will be a very good contender due to its high technology approach.

 As development has progressed it has surprised me how much I like it - it does become second nature to use and I will be fitting them to my poles for standard use. For some jobs I will still, no doubt, prefer my trusty hand valve.

[Rob clarke]

Alex, am I buying a new angle adapter as well as control or is it all in one?

Rob

[Alex Gardiner]

Alex, am I buying a new angle adapter as well as control or is it all in one?

Rob

It will be sold initially only as a complete 'all-in-one' angle adapter gooseneck assembly.

This will be available as a stand alone product for the advertised £19.95 or as an option on the poles for the same £9.50 as our other pole flow valve option.

[Spruce]

think ill stick to my univalve if its any thing like the aquatap im out, my aqua tap was a nite mare water keeped turning off all the time  pxxxiss me off so much its now sat in the box of unwanted junk  lol , the only thing i can see thats different is it has a tenshioner to adjust the stiffness of the twist action not my cuppa t this one

I can understand how easy it is to be negative considering your previous experience with a similar concept.

I didn't buy an Aquatap because I perceived there would be issues in my application, but it was all based on theory. IMO some purchasers were fobbed of with unacceptable fixes, ie open it up and remove an O ring, open it up and remove grease, open it up and add grease, etc; depending on the nature of the complaint.

The same Mr Peter Fogwill also was the first to market a flow controller mounted on his brush. The concept was modified by Steve and the Aquadapter was the result - probably the best accessory invention ever for window cleaners at the time. I still believe it is far superior to the Uni-valve in so many ways. Its only downfall is it's weight.

Peter will still argue that his Aquatap is superior the Gardiners on/off rotary switch as his design allows for a reduced water flow. Gardiner's unit appears to be either on or off.

Mark Munro has had the 'tap' on test for around 9 months. He commented once that its concept was brilliant. I have to believe that this is a tried and tested accessory and on the basis of that I would order one and try it.
I like the idea of being able to adjust the tension, although I would always be looking for my allen key. I'm still not convinced that the rotary action is a good idea for me.

Alex did tell me once that it may not be to everyone's taste, but I guess that's the 'nature of the beast'. You can't please everyone all of the time, especially window cleaners.  (I guess Alex is no stranger to this as he supplies brushes.)

It has taken Alex a long time to give the go ahead for tool making and production so I would expect the financial commitment is huge. If he wasn't 100% happy, I doubt he would make a commitment like this.

What we also don't see is the much bigger picture. Steve Jones says he has patented the pull on/off hose concept. I doubt Peter Fogwill will have patented a rotary on/off tap concept so this leaves a void to be filled now which can be improved in the future as did the Aquadaptor to Uni-Valve.

Always enjoy reading your well considered posts Spruce 

I just wanted to mention that this product has been designed, developed and manufactured with Peter Fogwill from the beginning. You could say that this is a Gardiner Gooseneck Valve with 'Aquatap Technology' inside.

It has taken a long time to get the product to this stage along with the various Patents and Protection needed for them. Neither of us has been in a hurry - we would rather get it right the first time with this product.

It is a very integrated design to reduce the niggles usually associated with after-market products.

It will not suit everyone in their preferences, but does give a different option for those that like this type of simple twist action. For some the action of the Aquadapter or the new Uni-Valve will be preferable, but it does at least give users more options. For those that like a single button option the new WFP link will be a very good contender due to its high technology approach.

 As development has progressed it has surprised me how much I like it - it does become second nature to use and I will be fitting them to my poles for standard use. For some jobs I will still, no doubt, prefer my trusty hand valve.

Hi Alex,

I must admit I didn't expect to read that it is a joint venture between you and Peter.  That threw me.

But then again, who would have thought that Ford and Citroen would become joint diesel engine developers back in 1998/1999? 

It makes sense to involve Peter as he has spent many hours developing the Aquatap to begin with.

The early wfp industry owes much to Peter. Peter is a good concept developer and has proved that over the years. Sadly, from what I see is that much of what he worked so hard on just died as he failed to develop and market it.
So to have someone who can market and drive a product forward can only be good news for Peter as I don't believe he is committed to that side of the business. (That's not a criticism btw).

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[Jonny 87]

I'm really pleased to see efforts being made to improve the working day for us vision technicians.

I've tried nearly every gadget out there over the years, some are great.... Others not so much. Triggers on poles, loops of hose tripping myself up and decapitating many a garden gnome.

Must admit thigh I love the uni-valve, but I love having different options. I really liked the aquatap at first, but the extra weight, and the fact it would turn itself off sometimes when at awkward angles, made me wait for the uni valve, and love it so far.

The big thing for me is that I love using a carbon gooseneck, so I'll be waiting till the updated versions are out till I can try.

Really happy to see a nice competitive price too. (Think I've been living in Scotland too long it's rubbing off)

 

[Rob clarke]

Alex, am I buying a new angle adapter as well as control or is it all in one?

Rob

It will be sold initially only as a complete 'all-in-one' angle adapter gooseneck assembly.

This will be available as a stand alone product for the advertised £19.95 or as an option on the poles for the same £9.50 as our other pole flow valve option.

Ok cheers 

[simonr]

does it work with swivel necks

[SeanK]

For me it has the same issue that put me off the Aqua tap, you have to touch either the glass or the frame with the
brush to turn it off and risk any dirt in the bristles being left on the glass.
I like to turn my water off with the brush off the glass and away from any potential splash back areas which you cant do with this device.

[Smurf]

For me it has the same issue that put me off the Aqua tap, you have to touch either the glass or the frame with the
brush to turn it off and risk any dirt in the bristles being left on the glass.
I like to turn my water off with the brush off the glass and away from any potential splash back areas which you cant do with this device.

If I’m honest that is one of the reasons why I never bought peter's aquatap apart from the obvious added weight to the end of the pole. Other drawbacks for me I could see with peters twist action design was not compatible with swivel necks nor having proper control of the water flow especialy when doing add-ons like fsg's cleans as could turn the water on/off unexpectedly when using the brush on awkward angles.

[Alex Gardiner]

does it work with swivel necks

It does work with Swivel Necks, but is not ideal.
I would probably recommend using one of the other water control options if using swivel necks.

[Alex Gardiner]

For me it has the same issue that put me off the Aqua tap, you have to touch either the glass or the frame with the
brush to turn it off and risk any dirt in the bristles being left on the glass.
I like to turn my water off with the brush off the glass and away from any potential splash back areas which you cant do with this device.

In real world use it can be operated very quickly, so whilst working I turn it off in the bottom RH corner of the window as the brush reaches the corner. The brush is then lifted away by the time the water curtain has flowed down and rinsed the area, meaning that the brush is not potentially leaving anything on the glass.

[Alex Gardiner]

For me it has the same issue that put me off the Aqua tap, you have to touch either the glass or the frame with the
brush to turn it off and risk any dirt in the bristles being left on the glass.
I like to turn my water off with the brush off the glass and away from any potential splash back areas which you cant do with this device.

If I’m honest that is one of the reasons why I never bought peter's aquatap apart from the obvious added weight to the end of the pole. Other drawbacks for me I could see with peters twist action design was not compatible with swivel necks nor having proper control of the water flow especialy when doing add-ons like fsg's cleans as could turn the water on/off unexpectedly when using the brush on awkward angles.

This Gooseneck Valve does have the ability to be locked in either an open or closed position for use - ideal for awkward jobs like FSG etc.

[the king]

i think it will be fine on big pains of glass  but as soon as u are polling over connys at angles ect it will be like the old aquatap turning off all the time i just cant c it being any beta my self