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JandS

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Trolley system
« on: May 19, 2016, 01:54:19 pm »
Mainly into carpet cleaning but have a window round I do when times are slow....about 5 days work per month.
Looking to go WFP with it and wondered which firm it would be best to go with for a trolley system.
Don't want a van system...all the work is literally on my doorstep roughly a 400 metre diameter round our house...
Who's the best with regards price/reliability/customer service...not looking for cheapest just value for money.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Cookie

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2016, 02:10:51 pm »
I'd recommend a Pure Freedom 25L trolley. I used one before moving to a van mount, very sturdy & reliable and now my backup system (should I need one).

The only minor downside I found was that the nuts holding the wheels in place protrude a bit and if you're not careful you could end up scratching objects whilst wheeling the trolley through narrow spaces (eg: alloy wheels on customers' cars etc...).

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2016, 02:17:53 pm »
I use the Freedom trolley. As Cookie says it's a sturdy piece of kit. Often see them on eBay.
I've just modded mine with a backpack pump and 7ah battery. Makes it nice and light for getting in and out of a vehicle. The backpack pump gives me a full day running from the 7ah battery. You can make it even lighter by putting pneumatic tyres on it too.

JandS

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2016, 03:46:44 pm »
Was looking on there at the 50L one...how much would you use on an average 3 bed semi bay  window top and bottom at front and patio door at rear....think what I'm asking is how much water would you need for say a 7 hour day on semis?
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2016, 04:47:50 pm »
My work is fairly compact also. Once out of my car the trolley stays out for long periods. With the original setup (24ah battery and 100psi sureflow pump) and running with my controller on full flow I found 25ltrs would last me about half hour. However, you can clean very well with it on a much lower setting. Full flow is good for first cleans but most of the time I ran with mine on a much lower setting.
With my current setup I get about four hours of maintenance cleaning out of five barrels. But when starting up I would be thinking in terms of two barrels an hour.

JandS

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2016, 06:05:39 pm »
That's why I want a trolley system...it 'aint worth firing up the van for most of my work....would flatten battery in Winter.
Walked it to my furthest point today, just about 5 minutes tops.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

CF Facilities

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2016, 06:46:50 pm »
When I started out I got the trolley system from cleaning warehouse Wolverhampton . It will be 4 years old in Sept. Never gone wrong.
Still use it daily but as a van mount now as didn't want to be lifting it in and out of van.  Really sturdy pneumatic tyres too. 

Smurf

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2016, 04:45:43 pm »
Mainly into carpet cleaning but have a window round I do when times are slow....about 5 days work per month.
Looking to go WFP with it and wondered which firm it would be best to go with for a trolley system.
Don't want a van system...all the work is literally on my doorstep roughly a 400 metre diameter round our house...
Who's the best with regards price/reliability/customer service...not looking for cheapest just value for money.

You will soon get fedup lugging containers of water & a trolley about... Trust me as I know from experience it's a pain in the arse.

JandS

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2016, 05:29:43 pm »
It gets me started though Smurf and gives me a feel for the work and whether I prefer it to ladder work, possibly yes to that.
It's also the cheaper option to start with and if things pick up can easily upgrade.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2016, 10:00:24 pm »
It gets me started though Smurf and gives me a feel for the work and whether I prefer it to ladder work, possibly yes to that.
It's also the cheaper option to start with and if things pick up can easily upgrade.

I'd agree J.
I've used a trolley for eight years and worked from a car. It's still the best set up for my work which is very compact. A small van with a tank I could fill my trolley from would also work but I'm not in a hurry to make the switch. A large van would be overkill for me. (At the moment)
Each windy's round is different and you will work out what works for you.

Smurf

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2016, 10:21:58 pm »
I think I lasted a whole 2 weeks lugging water containers and a trolley about. Then thought there must be an easier way to do wfp work. I then simply bought a hose reel, cheap second hand wydale tank and used the pf trolley static in the van.

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Trolley system
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2016, 09:51:44 am »
I totally get why a van mounted system works for many WFPers, and in no way am I saying you shouldn't go for it.
You will, as has been said use a lot more water to start with, rinsing away all that accumulated soap from in the seals and dirt from around the frames, etc. So at first the trolley can be a pain having to refill it or put another barrel on more frequently. But once done, you will need a lot less water, so trips back and forth to your car/van become much less frequent. If you have to keep getting it in and out of a van to do detached houses that are spread out, I can understand how that might be a pain, especially if your trolley is heavy. But if it's a light one it takes seconds and is easy. I modded mine as I described earlier and it can be lifted out with one hand now with ease.
My work - and I can't be the only windy who's work is like it - is not suited to a van and reel system. Parking in many of the places I would need to park would cause a major obstruction for other people. Much of my work is also well away from road access. Using a long hose attached to a van would be very problematic. I would be dragging the hose across other people's gardens and for much of the time I would not be able to see much of the hose and whether it was creating a hazard for pedestrians. Using my trolley with 15 or 25mtrs of pole hose gets me to all of my work and is a doddle. 25ltrs of water lasts me about 45 mins. It never takes more than 5mins to grab another barrel and carry on.
You would think that if I can work with a trolley then I could work with a backpack on a sack truck. I could, but for reasons I'm not going to go into here it would be a lot more difficult than with my setup.