[Bernd]

Have had a estimate with a free test cleaning on a tennis court carpet. The carpet has never been cleaned and looked terrible.
Used Dynamall with 1-15 dillution. It worked good but there were some heavy water/ rust stains i could not get out.

Then i tried some Heavy duty microsplitter and it worked on these stains very good...but i like the way Dynamall "popps" up the carpet... So i started thinking about if it would be ok to use first the Heavy duty MS solution on the very heavy stains and then Dynamall on top or for the rest of the carpet.

Has anyone some experience using a microsplitter before Dynamall or could it  give some bad reactions using different chemicals?

Here is a picture where you can see the water/rust stains...

[Tony Stewart]

Hi Bernd
Here is my view on this. The tennis court carpet should in my opinion not be cleaned this way. It is one thing to like the way an encap "popps" the carpet. tennis courts are usually large expanses of carpet that are run over with a large brush machine that does not really pick up the soiling that falls into the carpet.
Next you need to vacuum the life out of the carpet to remove all the dust and muck that is in the carpet. Then where has the soil gone? It's still there and even if it has been encapsulated then it needs removing. Are you going back to vacuum it. The in house cleaners will certainly not be turning up to clean that tennis court with the correct vacuums so you will leave all the soil stil in there.
Next as a tennis player what is happening to the ball bounce - nothing. The dirt is in the carpet and you were presumeably called in to clean their carpet, not make it look clean. So when the ball bounces it bounces on the dirt not on the carpet that should be free of dirt. As the carpet gets dirtier the ball slides off the surface and makes the ball go faster, thus indoor courts gets faster and faster when they get dirtier.
The only way to clean then is hot water extraction using a truckmount for that area - simples.
Walk from that, you will not be giving the client what they want - in addition you need to discuss with them what the result will be - if you have a truckmount then do a clean on the baselines so they can see the difference on the bounce. You will also need to bonnet it off to stop the wick back.
Hope I dont sound miserable in a foreign language!!!

[Bernd]

Hi Bernd
Here is my view on this. The tennis court carpet should in my opinion not be cleaned this way. It is one thing to like the way an encap "popps" the carpet. tennis courts are usually large expanses of carpet that are run over with a large brush machine that does not really pick up the soiling that falls into the carpet.
Next you need to vacuum the life out of the carpet to remove all the dust and muck that is in the carpet. Then where has the soil gone? It's still there and even if it has been encapsulated then it needs removing. Are you going back to vacuum it. The in house cleaners will certainly not be turning up to clean that tennis court with the correct vacuums so you will leave all the soil stil in there.
Next as a tennis player what is happening to the ball bounce - nothing. The dirt is in the carpet and you were presumeably called in to clean their carpet, not make it look clean. So when the ball bounces it bounces on the dirt not on the carpet that should be free of dirt. As the carpet gets dirtier the ball slides off the surface and makes the ball go faster, thus indoor courts gets faster and faster when they get dirtier.
The only way to clean then is hot water extraction using a truckmount for that area - simples.
Walk from that, you will not be giving the client what they want - in addition you need to discuss with them what the result will be - if you have a truckmount then do a clean on the baselines so they can see the difference on the bounce. You will also need to bonnet it off to stop the wick back.
Hope I dont sound miserable in a foreign language!!!

Hi Tony,

thanks a lot for your detailed reply.

i have to say that i bonneted the test area to absorb the soil...and did not only use a floor pad for scrubbbing. As you have seen in the picture...the club does not care about the carpet! I talked to them and they would like to have a "looking clean carpet".

The field won 't be cleaned- only the parts behind and next to the playground although the field looks terrible.

..and you donīt sound miserable

[John Kelly]

Can't see there being any problems.

[elliott cleaning]

Have used  micro splitters as well as strong alkaline and acidic cleaning spotters in conjunction with Dynamall - absolutely no problem.

Tony
Many years ago had to clean a couple of indoor tennis courts which had been flooded by an adjacent stream flooding them. Not an option to vac them to death prior to cleaning.  Used the truckmount to  clean them .  Spent more time having to ladle the crap out of the waste tank than anything else. But you're right you have to HWE them and you need the vacuum of a t/m to get the required result.