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Ian101

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Been wanting to book Leading Call -  Becci Swan for a while now but somehow never got around to it.

 We seem to be going more commercial these days (just seems one decent big job put on website / facebook gets the phone ringing with more big jobs)  so that was the push that made me book  Becci - to speed things up if you like.  :)

So booked 20 hours spread over this week Mon - Fri @ £320 +vat £384 with free data sourcing. ... 50% deposit as never done business before which is fair enough - unfortunately forget to send payment so Becci kindly reminded me and kept slot open  :)

Will post a daily update with how things are going.

Not expecting a large number of leads but not an issue as prefer quality over quantity and tbh if one / two big jobs lands from it then will be happy - pushing windows and pressure washing.

Ive asked Becci to source from areas as opposed to say schools / nursing homes (got things in place ourselves for these 2)

Chasing customers in Wrexham Ind Est and Deeside Ind Est however Becci suggested Golf Clubs, car dealers, leisure centres, shopping centres, offices which is ok with us.

Becci also went onto qualify our ethos i.e. price competitive so explained were more about quality and reliability and would hate to win  a job on price alone - no profit in this IMHO.

Yesterdays results below.

Ian101

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2016, 10:15:50 am »
Mondays results below

Hi Ian,

Please find attached the results of today's 4 hours calling.

Overview:
2 appointments in green
5 info requests in yellow (need sending)
1 call back request in blue
19 not interested in grey

Ian101

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2016, 10:23:26 am »
unfortunately they seemed to hit a patch of small ind units with one or two windows  :(
  :) :) 2 appointments booked so will update this thread on how it goes

The 2 appointments booked already have window cleaners however going forward have asked Becci not to make appointments with calls that already have a supplier - as don't want to get in an undercutting situation.

Becci has agreed going forwards  that they will only make appointments if the lead is unhappy with their current supplier, contract up for renewal or don't have a supplier in place (obviously rare)

So yes have made their job harder but not a numbers game for me so will update when more to tell.

Mick Kent

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2016, 11:45:10 am »
I use Marje Gilbert at £90 for 8 hours calling. I used to use Becci but found the leads and appointments pretty poor considering the cost each session, i got fed up with so many zero or 1 appointments made so gave her a swerve as was obvious the hours i was paying for wasnt being used.
I always get 3-6 appointments from Marje each calling session as an average and have never had less than 2 where most get closed into jobs so i keep going back for more.
Maybe you will have a better experiance with Becci than me. I found her double the price for half the work.
I did still get jobs and was quids in overall with Becci so cant complain i just find Marje a good choice to use overall as she doesnt seem to skip corners and she trys that much harder where she does all the calling herself.

8weekly

Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2016, 12:21:23 pm »
I use Marje Gilbert at £90 for 8 hours calling. I used to use Becci but found the leads and appointments pretty poor considering the cost each session, i got fed up with so many zero or 1 appointments made so gave her a swerve as was obvious the hours i was paying for wasnt being used.
I always get 3-6 appointments from Marje each calling session as an average and have never had less than 2 where most get closed into jobs so i keep going back for more.
Maybe you will have a better experiance with Becci than me. I found her double the price for half the work.
I did still get jobs and was quids in overall with Becci so cant complain i just find Marje a good choice to use overall as she doesnt seem to skip corners and she trys that much harder where she does all the calling herself.
I was very disappointed with Marje. She never did the work when she said she would do it and focussed on schools which I'd asked her not to. I got about three appointments with schools who only really want a once a year clean, but I did get one small hotel out of it worh about £600 a year so it wasn't a complete disaster.


Ian101

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2016, 12:26:19 pm »
schools and nursing homes too obvious and very easy to do yourself utilising google maps, their websites and emails

8weekly

Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2016, 12:33:03 pm »
schools and nursing homes too obvious and very easy to do yourself utilising google maps, their websites and emails
Which is why I suspect she focussed on them.

Tom-01

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2016, 01:07:37 pm »
schools and nursing homes too obvious and very easy to do yourself utilising google maps, their websites and emails
Which is why I suspect she focussed on them.

Especially when the sales pitch is 'We are in the area can we stop by to give you a free estimate?' Never once did I actually meet a decision maker and the jobs were awful.

Tosh

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2016, 01:38:57 pm »
schools and nursing homes too obvious and very easy to do yourself utilising google maps, their websites and emails
Which is why I suspect she focussed on them.

Especially when the sales pitch is 'We are in the area can we stop by to give you a free estimate?' Never once did I actually meet a decision maker and the jobs were awful.

This is what I found with Becci. Im not saying its her, Im saying I think this method is going to attract issues we all would rather do without. Such as never meeting decision maker, the facilities take it as an opportunity to check out their current cleaners rate, which is fecking annoying; I cancelled a couple of meets after they said they had a cleaner and were entirely happy with him. Whats the point then??
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

ChumBucket

Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2016, 06:34:17 pm »
schools and nursing homes too obvious and very easy to do yourself utilising google maps, their websites and emails
Which is why I suspect she focussed on them.

Especially when the sales pitch is 'We are in the area can we stop by to give you a free estimate?' Never once did I actually meet a decision maker and the jobs were awful.

This is what I found with Becci. Im not saying its her, Im saying I think this method is going to attract issues we all would rather do without. Such as never meeting decision maker, the facilities take it as an opportunity to check out their current cleaners rate, which is fecking annoying; I cancelled a couple of meets after they said they had a cleaner and were entirely happy with him. Whats the point then??

The point is.... They have nothing to lose. Some Desperado has contacted them trying to drum up business. Put yourself in their shoes- why not, they "might" be able to save some money at no cost or hassle to themselves!

Smudger

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2016, 08:51:16 pm »
I think we have used both marje and becci. ( would have to check with Mrs smudger ) but you need to be more specific with what you want and the appointments - target business types like schools, nursing homes, and others ( it's easy to say you can do this yourself, if so you didn't need becci in the first place )
Our rules were simple, only book those with NO window cleaner otherwise your leads will all be about cheaper prices, both had some great results for us, but just like canvassing, leaflets, other forms of ad's it can be hit and miss, be interested how many genuine leads to get to quote for tho Ian

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Tosh

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2016, 09:17:12 pm »
schools and nursing homes too obvious and very easy to do yourself utilising google maps, their websites and emails
Which is why I suspect she focussed on them.

Especially when the sales pitch is 'We are in the area can we stop by to give you a free estimate?' Never once did I actually meet a decision maker and the jobs were awful.

This is what I found with Becci. Im not saying its her, Im saying I think this method is going to attract issues we all would rather do without. Such as never meeting decision maker, the facilities take it as an opportunity to check out their current cleaners rate, which is fecking annoying; I cancelled a couple of meets after they said they had a cleaner and were entirely happy with him. Whats the point then??

The point is.... They have nothing to lose. Some Desperado has contacted them trying to drum up business. Put yourself in their shoes- why not, they "might" be able to save some money at no cost or hassle to themselves!

All very true, still annoying, regardless.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Frankybadboy

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2016, 09:44:38 pm »
i found beckys data abase out fo date so watch out for that  ;)

cgh window cleaning

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2016, 10:37:52 pm »
I found  it to be a waste of time and money.
Had  a few appointments  booked in and most just wanted  a cheap quote one whent as far as to pull an invoice out from  there present window cleaner and said it will need to be cheaper then that.
One didn't even bother to turn up at time when  arranged  and most  where just looking for a cheap quote.

SB Cleaning

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2016, 10:51:03 pm »
I found  it to be a waste of time and money.
Had  a few appointments  booked in and most just wanted  a cheap quote one whent as far as to pull an invoice out from  there present window cleaner and said it will need to be cheaper then that.
One didn't even bother to turn up at time when  arranged  and most  where just looking for a cheap quote.
That was my experience as well..

This one nursing home I went to quote for was massive easily a all day job for 2 men..The window cleaners who were already doing it were charging £80 :o

jwplasterers

Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2016, 07:49:08 am »
Nothing beats knocking the door yourself, they want to see you not hear someone on the phone does there head in I bet

Ian101

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2016, 07:52:31 am »
TUESDAYS RESULTS FROM LEADING CALL - NO APPOINTMENTS

Hi Ian

Please find attached the results of today's 4 hours calling.

Overview:
1 info request in yellow (needs sending)
3 call back requests in blue
25 not interested in grey

Ian101

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2016, 07:58:09 am »
Of the 2 appointments from Monday

One cancelled when I contacted them to confirm appointment - manager said happy with their current window cleaner.

2nd appointment turned out to be very small 5 windowed unit 5 minute job. quote going in but we have a minimum charge for any job so don't think this one will be coming off.

dazmond

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2016, 08:28:56 am »
Of the 2 appointments from Monday

One cancelled when I contacted them to confirm appointment - manager said happy with their current window cleaner.

2nd appointment turned out to be very small 5 windowed unit 5 minute job. quote going in but we have a minimum charge for any job so don't think this one will be coming off.

why dont you stick to larger domestic ian?less cut throat and loyal customers(usually)in the long run.you can earn really well cleaning 5-8 jobs a day on well priced domestic.
price higher/work harder!

Mick Kent

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Re: Leading call booked for week ! - daily updates
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2016, 05:14:34 pm »
TUESDAYS RESULTS FROM LEADING CALL - NO APPOINTMENTS

Hi Ian

Please find attached the results of today's 4 hours calling.

Overview:
1 info request in yellow (needs sending)
3 call back requests in blue
25 not interested in grey
Expect a few more zero appointments buddy..
No way 29 phonecalls take 4 hours when most simply put phone down within the first 20 seconds as already have a cleaner.
You payed over £100 for somebody else to phone 29 places for zero appointments!
Thats why i stopped using Leading Call as i felt short changed more times than not.