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David Beecroft

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2016, 05:58:10 pm »
I can understand how it helped you, I'm not having problems like that though. My problem is more to do with fatigue (having just turned 60), lifting the reel in & out of the van and then rewinding it. By the end of a heavy day I'm wasted. Also I tend to older employ older guys (50's) as they prove to be more reliable. So I'm wondering how long it would take for the power reel (or similar) to pay for itself in more productivity for my set up? any thoughts?

Smudger

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2016, 06:38:50 pm »
Currently have two electric hose reels in my van.

Cox reel full setup costing about £1300-1500

Also had fitted today a

PowerUP HD reel. Costing £500-£600

Obviously both fixed to van. I also have a hose roller system. So van doors are locked up.

After using elec reels. Would NEVER ever go back to manual.

I have three MANUAL Cox reels at a cost of £330 each plus vat plus fitting kits and I still wouldn't reel in manually. Not on your nelly.

For sale ???
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

NWH

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2016, 06:41:40 pm »
I used the powerup reel for a day and it does save a lot of energy having to do it by hand,it couldn't put up with hot water it kept popping off the reel so I sent it back. He now does a better quality reel which will withstand hot water reeling in and having to bend over IMO is a lot harder work than actually cleaning windows, I feel I've exerted more energy doing this rather than what we are at the job to do.

Tony dunmall

Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2016, 06:45:20 pm »
Can any one answer a question who uses the black power up the from window cleaning warehouse, I have the manual version and they have a tendancy to unspool or run to fast and get tangled

Does this happen on the electric version or is there slight tension on the reel when walking away from van with hose In hand

Perfect Windows

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2016, 06:59:28 pm »
I can understand how it helped you, I'm not having problems like that though. My problem is more to do with fatigue (having just turned 60), lifting the reel in & out of the van and then rewinding it. By the end of a heavy day I'm wasted. Also I tend to older employ older guys (50's) as they prove to be more reliable. So I'm wondering how long it would take for the power reel (or similar) to pay for itself in more productivity for my set up? any thoughts?

We used drills on our existing reels.  I reckon it allowed us to do another clean a day.  Not through increased speed of winding but more by being less knackered through the day, hence speeding up the cleans themselves.  I keep meaning to try it again.

Vin

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2016, 07:49:36 pm »
Can any one answer a question who uses the black power up the from window cleaning warehouse, I have the manual version and they have a tendancy to unspool or run to fast and get tangled

Does this happen on the electric version or is there slight tension on the reel when walking away from van with hose In hand

He is working on a way to add to do this. Mine has some as it's got a chain and mine goes through rollers. But yeah I can see it unspooling

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2016, 07:50:16 pm »
@smudger.

If this elec reel does work out ok then yes. All three will be for sale. All mint as mounted in van.

Tony dunmall

Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2016, 09:32:54 pm »
Thanks  cleaver forum name

I'll wait for a little bit more development so there's  a bit more tension on the reel out,  not worth money at the moment i don't  find an issue with reeling in, if I get tired my daughter reels in 😀

David Beecroft

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2016, 07:28:10 am »
What about reliability? If the motor fails for whatever reason, can they still be hand cranked and if so are they as free wheeling as an normal  reel or does the motor inhibit free movement?  :)

dazmond

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2016, 08:11:06 am »
What about reliability? If the motor fails for whatever reason, can they still be hand cranked and if so are they as free wheeling as an normal  reel or does the motor inhibit free movement?  :)

a good quality manual fixed reel in your van will be a hell of a lot easier than taking the reel out on every job.that right there is your problem.its virtually effortless.no need for an expensive motorised one unless your really unfit/suffer from arthritis.
price higher/work harder!

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2016, 11:13:33 am »
What about reliability? If the motor fails for whatever reason, can they still be hand cranked and if so are they as free wheeling as an normal  reel or does the motor inhibit free movement?  :)

Cox reel NO chance. It's direct drive and geared.

PowerUp. Easy peasy. Plonk on handle. Away you go.

David Beecroft

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2016, 05:53:20 pm »
Any chance of seeing some photo's of your set up Clever Forum Name? ( how did you ever get on at school with a name like that?)  ;D

NWH

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2016, 05:54:25 pm »
The Cox reel looks to slow though this is the only thing that put me off it,it can't have the gears changed on it either apparently something to do with health and safety,although it's slow it sure does save hand cranking the hose in.

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2016, 06:41:22 pm »
Any chance of seeing some photo's of your set up Clever Forum Name? ( how did you ever get on at school with a name like that?)  ;D

I will need an email address to send em to mate really :)

David Beecroft

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2016, 07:19:45 pm »
Not post them on the forum?

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2016, 07:25:50 pm »
No because the van has stuff fitted that hasnt been released in the window cleaning market as i am testing "stuff"

Thinking about it, you wont achieve anything from seeing my setup.


Clever Forum Name

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2016, 07:26:33 pm »

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2016, 07:26:59 pm »
plenty of videos and photos about on the power up HD

David Beecroft

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2016, 09:02:07 pm »
Thanks for that, very impressive!
So are you changing the Cox reels for the latest Power up reels?
I'm also interested in the roller fittings in the van floor, are they sufficient or do you have additional ones fitted on the vans exterior?  :)

duncan h

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Re: Motorised Reels advice
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2016, 04:54:10 pm »
Had a power up HD from the start. Got duff joints so needed all the help I could get. Hated winding. Just get up to speed and snag.
Thought it was a little under powered. Plodded on for a year. My mate looked at my set up and got his lad the latest. It was miles faster than mine. Mentioned it to him on Face Book and sent me a new motor to try out. Now works even faster. Good service and I would never go back to winding