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Jamie Thomas

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Soft washing
« on: April 04, 2016, 07:58:53 pm »
Does anyone know if hypo is used in soft washing and if so how is it not damaging everyone else's property as the vids I've seen on YouTube it's drifting all over the place.

chris scott

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2016, 08:48:45 pm »
It is and it does.
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Jamie Thomas

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2016, 10:46:22 pm »
Surely this method must be damaging surrounding property's

Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2016, 11:36:02 pm »
Most now realize that spraying/misting a stronge mix of hypo about is not the way to go now.

As posted before ac locker explains why he now uses a 1% hypo mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtcLeOd2RBU

Still is not ideal in close proximity of other properties, washing, people, pets etc though as even 1% can do damage if the spray drifts about. Would be better to use a wfp & jetted brush to eliminate as much overspray as possible. I've also been known just to use a car/truck brush on stripped down wfp and dip it in an oblong bucket with a week mix of hypo and brush it on walls, cladding etc. 

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Soft washing
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2016, 01:07:36 am »
Most now realize that spraying/misting a stronge mix of hypo about is not the way to go now.

As posted before ac locker explains why he now uses a 1% hypo mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtcLeOd2RBU

Still is not ideal in close proximity of other properties, washing, people, pets etc though as even 1% can do damage if the spray drifts about. Would be better to use a wfp & jetted brush to eliminate as much overspray as possible. I've also been known just to use a car/truck brush on stripped down wfp and dip it in an oblong bucket with a week mix of hypo and brush it on walls, cladding etc.
Hi Smurf, good video but its a shame AC is wasting so much of the cleaning solution, as when spraying any type of cleaning chemicals onto a vertical surface its far more effective to start spraying from the bottom and working your way up to the top, this method allows for better and more effective adhesion of the cleaning solution to penatrate into the surface and drastically cuts down on the amount of cleaning chemicals required, just to share as we all know what cleaning chemicals cost so why waste on them.
I would also agree on your better and safer option of mixing the cleaning solution into an oblong bucket dipping your brush into the solution and applying it to the surface again working your way from the bottom up to the top, this method allows for even better adhesion again of the solution while also allowing you to agitate the solution into the different substrates with your preferred type of brush, then just allow a few minutes dwell time and just rinse off with your wfp. I think they call it working smart.  :o

Kev Martin

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2016, 07:44:37 am »
Good Video I agree working from top to bottom is best
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Jamie Thomas

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2016, 07:45:19 am »
This may be a silly question if they are using only 1% hypo to clean roofs and it's getting all the crap staining and lichen off the tiles surely using 14 or 15% hypo on slabs is major overkill or the 1% mix can't be cleaning the roofs that well if you look close up.

Kev Martin

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2016, 07:56:18 am »
This may be a silly question if they are using only 1% hypo to clean roofs and it's getting all the crap staining and lichen off the tiles surely using 14 or 15% hypo on slabs is major overkill or the 1% mix can't be cleaning the roofs that well if you look close up.

It is working!!!   It is all about dwell times and multiple applications if required.  The issue here is everyone wants instant results where as dwell times and if necessary a second application are a better route than powerful chemicals that destroy everything they come into contact with.  However, lots of people will disagree.   This is why Algoclear is not popular because it needs a little time!!!

Analogy:   If my wife burns my lasagne in the oven, she adopts "Lets see how hard I can work method" and then proceeds to spend 1/2 hour+  attacking the oven  proof dish with an arsenal of pan scourers, magic sponges, Microfibre cloths and every cleaning  chemical and spray available to mankind.  I just laugh because I am sick of trying to educate her.

I achieve the same if not better results with the "My have a cup of tea method"  I drop the dish in warm soapy water overnight, make a cup of tea and the next morning give it a quick wipe with a microfibre cloth  ;D

We both achieved the same result and  got the dish clean!  You decide which method was best???
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simonr

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2016, 09:26:02 pm »

Aqua Power Solutions

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2016, 09:53:51 pm »
Kevin talking about dishes !!
You get one husband who cleans the dishes every day in their married life . One day he forgets to do the dishes and the wife comes home and goes mental calling him a twat  because he has not done the dishes.
On the other hand another husband, never ever in their married life cleans the dishes. He decides that this is the day he is going to clean the dishes. He stands proud next to the sink doing the dishes when his wife walks in and calls him an angel !!

Ed
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Kev Martin

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2016, 10:37:19 pm »
Kevin talking about dishes !!
You get one husband who cleans the dishes every day in their married life . One day he forgets to do the dishes and the wife comes home and goes mental calling him a twat  because he has not done the dishes.
On the other hand another husband, never ever in their married life cleans the dishes. He decides that this is the day he is going to clean the dishes. He stands proud next to the sink doing the dishes when his wife walks in and calls him an angel !!

Ed

That's why I never buy my wife flowers ;D  Last time she said "What have you done" ;D
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clarkson

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2016, 08:45:39 am »
would this be any good for applying softwash

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390534818207?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Simon
Don't think the pump on that will have chemical seals, not sure just check .  Won't last long  using hypo mix
If  it hasn't.

Shureflo. 8000 series have the right seals.

John

Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2016, 07:23:44 pm »
The most common Shureflo 8000 used for wfp is not a chemical pump. Also most standard pumps will not tolerate hypo and even some chem pumps using a high strength hypo will die too apparently.

simonr

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2016, 09:28:55 pm »
it has viton seals though, i thought  they were what was needed , i saw one in my local farmers shop its definately for chemicals

Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2016, 10:19:14 pm »
This one which is mostly used for wfp is not a chem pump http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/pumps-controllers/pumps/12v-100psi-5-2lpm-shurflo-diaphragm-pump.html

However Shureflo do make chem pumps too so that is probably the one you had seen in the local farmers shop.  ;)

simonr

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2016, 07:39:27 am »

Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2016, 10:09:39 pm »
i posted the wrong link, this is the one i was looking at

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181857967134?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Looks cheap enough to give it a go for sure. Mind that pump is only 3.7 lpm 60 psi so maybe no good for say spraying hypo on roofs as roof cleaners tend to use much higher flow rate than that.


simonr

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2016, 10:15:45 pm »
i thought the thing about soft wash was a lot less pressure / lower flow on the roof/walls ?
 
i'm about to get a pressure washer should i just get an x jet as well & forget the sprayer

do you know if blackwash is the same as very diluted hypo ?

Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2016, 10:35:56 pm »
I don't do roof tile cleaning or use a softwash system spraying a hypo mix about so I'm probably not the best person to ask.

simonr

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2016, 10:45:42 pm »
ok cheers