[Dave Willis]

That's the new Gardiners brush that came out today. It's called the 'Sublime' best brush ever.

I also tested a new brush called the 'Ridiculous' that went on to become the 'Neon' or something.

Could probably heat up the Gardiners swivel plate and bend it if I could be bothered.

[ChumBucket]

That's the new Gardiners brush that came out today. It's called the 'Sublime' best brush ever.

I also tested a new brush called the 'Ridiculous' that went on to become the 'Neon' or something.

Could probably heat up the Gardiners swivel plate and bend it if I could be bothered.

This is something I have been considering, just never got round to it. The other this is that I don't know what degree of angle is required for optimum use- I'd have to guess, do a bit of trial and error. I'm considering the same for the 90 degree QL sockets too.
 I've heard Aqua-fresh are giving away a free Neon brush with every tube of toothpaste they sell.

[H MAN]

Gardiners swivel in action - what's wrong with this?

If the pivot was angled you would have to move much less to achieve the same. Much less body movement is required from an angled swivel- we've just got so used to 90 degree ones that it's difficult to imagine the degree of difference a proper, angled swivel makes- don't ask me about the physics/mathematics behind it however but it is fact.  Similar with 90 degree brush sockets, 45 degree ones are SO much better in every aspect- there is nothing a 90 degree socket does better than a 45 one IMO they have just been accepted.

Thank you  Blind  Pierre;
You explained much better then I could.

[tonycarr]

I've never used a swivel but want to give it a try, so I am reading this thread with interest. Thank you H MAN

Ordered some parts from Gardiner a few days ago but haven't yet put them to use. The part pictured earlier in this thread is one of those parts. Could what you're suggesting about brush/swivel angle be accomplished with a wedge under the top part of the swivel that attaches to the brush?

Hopefully I'll be giving this a try early next week

hi mark have you got the one of the adjustable goosenecks with the swivel?  if not iv got a spare one if you want to borrow to have a try,  i think there excellent, although i think H Man may well be right by having it angled. as much as i like working with mine, sometimes find it a bit unresponsive (difficult to explain what i mean) im visualising using one with that added angle  shown by H and i think that could be the answer. need to get me heat gun out

H-Man what angle degree have you made?

tony

[Smurf]

I must be thick as can't see what you are all on about. What difference is it going to make to a swivel action if the male bit that it connects to the female swivel bit on the brush is slightly angled.

Now were did I put me bloody heat gun...Might as well knacker a brand new spare swivel to try and see if it makes jack or not. If it don't and I break it I will be sending H Man a bill   

[M & C Window Cleaning]

I've never used a swivel but want to give it a try, so I am reading this thread with interest. Thank you H MAN

Ordered some parts from Gardiner a few days ago but haven't yet put them to use. The part pictured earlier in this thread is one of those parts. Could what you're suggesting about brush/swivel angle be accomplished with a wedge under the top part of the swivel that attaches to the brush?

Hopefully I'll be giving this a try early next week

hi mark have you got the one of the adjustable goosenecks with the swivel?  if not iv got a spare one if you want to borrow to have a try,  i think there excellent, although i think H Man may well be right by having it angled. as much as i like working with mine, sometimes find it a bit unresponsive (difficult to explain what i mean) im visualising using one with that added angle  shown by H and i think that could be the answer. need to get me heat gun out

H-Man what angle degree have you made?

tony

Hi Tony,
I ordered the necessary parts to fit to my existing resi neck not realising that what I had ordered were spares. Should have been obvious (doh, my bad) and they didn't come with the bolt that the swivel pivots on. So I'm waiting for that part to arrive before I can use it. It was posted  earlier so am hoping to try it out Monday. Thanks for your offer buddy

[tonycarr]

I must be thick as can't see what you are all on about. What difference is it going to make to a swivel action if the male bit that it connects to the female swivel bit on the brush is slightly angled.

Now were did I put me bloody heat gun...Might as well knacker a brand new spare swivel to try and see if it makes jack or not. If it don't and I break it I will be sending H Man a bill   

  I wouldn't heat up an existing one, I'd make one as per the video, I honestly think that having that slight angle would make a great product even better, I'm gonna make one over the weekend and test it out
I'll let you know how it goes   

tony

[tonycarr]

No probs Mark

hows ya back r u working?

Tony

[Smurf]

I could never get hold of that plastic pipe H Man uses so never bothered making stuff myself.

[tonycarr]

I have a section of drainpipe in the shed I might cut a  piece out of that, then use the heat gun to shape it

[M & C Window Cleaning]

No probs Mark

hows ya back r u working?

Tony

Yeah, it's a slow recovery though. Just did half day today. Had fun with the new Ultimate flocked with fans. All new for me. Never used flocked or fans before. So far I'm liking both very much

[H MAN]

Here is one just found did this about 2 years ago.
For the people that have Wagtail handles.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uakV_i4y3aU

[slap bash]

The thing that put me off swivel neck was the floppy feeling of the brush when removing the brush fro the glass and replacing it back on the glass again. I always felt it should have some resistance and should return to a 90-degree position. at right angles to the pole. I have thought of making a bridle with poli hose to achieve this returned action so it will give you a more ridged feel when
 using this setup.

[M & C Window Cleaning]

The thing that put me off swivel neck was the floppy feeling of the brush when removing the brush fro the glass and replacing it back on the glass again. I always felt it should have some resistance and should return to a 90-degree position. at right angles to the pole. I have thought of making a bridle with poli hose to achieve this returned action so it will give you a more ridged feel when
 using this setup.

When I was first lent some kit to try eight yrs ago by a friend, the pole was fitted with a swivel and that is my exact recollection of it. Had a ball joint like the one shown earlier if memory serves and I hated it. So I never fitted one to my poles. But I'm getting an increasing amount of work where I have to reach over the side of connys and the like where it could be useful, so I'm going to give it another try. My JG 'T' is at the top of the resi neck acting as a stop for the hose so am hoping that will prevent some of the floppy feeling caused by the swivel.

[ChumBucket]

Gardiner swivels can be freely adjusted to make them as tight or as loose as you wish. My preference is just enough tension to prevent the brush from flopping off the glass.

[tonycarr]

Gardiner swivels can be freely adjusted to make them as tight or as loose as you wish. My preference is just enough tension to prevent the brush from flopping off the glass.

yep agree all in the tension

tony

[KS Cleaning]

 

That's the new Gardiners brush that came out today. It's called the 'Sublime' best brush ever.

I also tested a new brush called the 'Ridiculous' that went on to become the 'Neon' or something.

Could probably heat up the Gardiners swivel plate and bend it if I could be bothered.

[KS Cleaning]

Here is one just found did this about 2 years ago.
For the people that have Wagtail handles.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uakV_i4y3aU

WTF, preaching to the masses on how to make your working day easier.....................then sticking a vikan brush on the end of your pole

[H MAN]

Here is one just found did this about 2 years ago.
For the people that have Wagtail handles.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uakV_i4y3aU

WTF, preaching to the masses on how to make your working day easier.....................then sticking a vikan brush on the end of your pole

  This particular brush we generally use for heavy duty general  scrubbing works well.
The good ones  we will not use for general cleaning.
You must keep a brush like this for the same reason??

[Smurf]

I have 3 old vikan bricks that still work well if/when needed on certain jobs I do.
Old habbits die hard as not all new wfp brushes I find work that well as a vikan