[Dave Turley]

Hi everyone!

Having tried the thinner style of Thermobore by Gardiners in the past I decided that I want to upgrade to the thicker more expensive Thermobore, only to find that they no longer produce any Thermobore in any size.

Does anyone know of a similar product?

I'm guessing that either a larger bore or wall thickness will help to retain heat in the hose so i'm happy to go up to 10 or 11mm od.

I think anything thicker will struggle to fit on my Pure Freedom hose reel and be a nightmare to pull around.

At the moment I'm using regular microbore which is losing way too much heat on larger jobs when there is 50-100 metres on the cold ground.

Thanks, Dave

[Dave Turley]

https://www.grippatank.co.uk/thermobore-plus-100m-reinforced-hose-8mm-id-new

This looks ideal but i'm really not fancying the 15mm od, has anyone used it?

[dazmond]

i thought you were selling up dave?

my experience of thermobore isnt good.the orange stuff delaminated and ended up bursting with hot water and the red thermobore plus was just too heavy to drag around all day.id stick to microbore if i were you and turn your heater up a bit.the new microbore that alex sells now is excellent with hot water.

it ll soon be summer now and warmer weather!

[Dave Turley]

Hi Dazmond

I think you must be getting me mixed up with someone else.

I've spent eleven years honing my round to where it is now and I can't see me ever selling up unless my health deteriorates for some reason.

I currently use Gardiners microbrobore and it's great with hot water but it doesn't retain the heat over long distances very well.

I've now realised that microprobe has an 11.5mm od, maybe a little wider once the heat and pressure has swelled it, but it only has a 6 mm id.

Do you think Gardiners  minibore might be a happy medium? It has a 8mm id and 13.5mm od. I'm sure the larger body of water in the pipe will help a bit but it will be heavier.

I can't turn my heat up any more, I use a Pure Freedom 5KW diesel hot system and it's set on max.

The burner has 4 "settings" that it automatically switches between and generally the temperature at the van fluctuates between 53 and 65 degrees C.

In between jobs the water is recirculated into the tank to keep my hoses hot. This raises the temperature of the water in the tank slowly through the day, but the heat from the heater stays pretty much the same regardless of the ambient temperature of the water in the tank.

The only thing Pure Freedom have suggested is to upgrade to a 9KW burner because this has 10 "gears" and is more powerful so the temperature will fluctuate less from the upper limit.

I am fairly happy with the temperature at the van with my current setup, I just want to limit the drop in temperature through the hose.

Was the weight of the red Thermobore plus really bad?

Do you think it is the same suff that Grippatank are now selling as Grippahose HydroHeat +?

Lots of questions for you if you have the time to reply! 

[NWH]

Just get some 6mm microbore I've used it with hot water for years. 

[Dave Turley]

Hi everyone!

Having tried the thinner style of Thermobore by Gardiners in the past I decided that I want to upgrade to the thicker more expensive Thermobore, only to find that they no longer produce any Thermobore in any size.

Does anyone know of a similar product?

I'm guessing that either a larger bore or wall thickness will help to retain heat in the hose so i'm happy to go up to 10 or 11mm od.

I think anything thicker will struggle to fit on my Pure Freedom hose reel and be a nightmare to pull around.

At the moment I'm using regular microbore which is losing way too much heat on larger jobs when there is 50-100 metres on the cold ground.

Thanks, Dave

That's what I'm using already as stated in my original post.

[dazmond]

hi dave i found the thermobore plus really heavy and you notice a lot when your mainly using a van mount for most of your work.i regularly unwind the whole 100m out on lots of work.so microbore is the most manageable,easiest way IMO.

tbh heat loss from the hose has never been an issue  for me as the heater i use(L10)produces a good  warm temperature at brush head even on min settings and i wfp over 90% of my work these days.

regards


dazmond

[dazmond]

yes dave the grippatank hydra hose looks exactly the same as the red thermobore plus hose i bought from gardiners.i binned it in the end!

if you want an easier working day DONT buy this hose!stick to microbore!

[Dave Turley]

Thanks for your help guys!

[slap bash]

Thumobore is not made to keep water hot. It`s made to stop  delaminating . Naw I hear you say it does delaminate. Any P U hose which is what thurmobore is can only take heat up to 65 degrees before it too will delaminate. P.u. hose heat beyond this 65 degree will loose its structure and kink and distort until it delaminates. This damage will not be corrected when cooled down. It is damaged forever. Hope this will help the understanding of heat hoses.