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8weekly

Re: How much for this?
« Reply #120 on: March 18, 2016, 08:19:37 am »
Some of these big jobs are not always the holy grail to big earnings.
People with lots of money can be some of the tightest to give it away.
I don't know if this was the case but it wouldn't surprise me if the property owners were looking for a cheaper price to what they are already paying or maybe just fishing to confirm the price they are paying is "cheap".
However, often the small guys aren't insured, aren't professional (pee in gardens, swear, smoke) and are rude and surly. Not the people on here perhaps.
Exactly.
Some rich people are rich because they are very good at getting the best deals for their money.
They don't want to be ripped off so will look for the best value for their hard earned money.
What's funny is some of the guys quoting big bucks for this job believe they will do a better, more professional job then the ones quoting half the price. The reality is the 'bigger' companies have alot higher overheads and pass this on to the customer, the 'little' guys with smaller overheads can do exactly the same job at a much better price.
Anyone with sense knows this which is why it's always better to shop around, no matter how rich you are.

SeanK

Re: How much for this?
« Reply #121 on: March 18, 2016, 08:28:28 am »
Just because you can afford something doesn't make you any less aware of somebody trying to make a mug out of you
if anything the rich would be more paranoid about this.
They know what they need to pay for a decent service and when somebody is taking the pee, but I suppose there might be a few
nice but dim types out there who believe they need to pay a window cleaner a £100 or more an hour.


8weekly

Re: How much for this?
« Reply #122 on: March 18, 2016, 10:17:26 am »
Just because you can afford something doesn't make you any less aware of somebody trying to make a mug out of you
if anything the rich would be more paranoid about this.
They know what they need to pay for a decent service and when somebody is taking the pee, but I suppose there might be a few
nice but dim types out there who believe they need to pay a window cleaner a £100 or more an hour.
I've found enough to keep four people in full time employment so far.  ;)

NWH

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #123 on: March 18, 2016, 10:19:42 am »
Of course its relative, you get in where you fit it.

Thats why these threads are complete poope, if you drive brand new vans and have lots of overheads, have a massive mortage and want to be a millionaire you charge a hell of a lot more than the guy who want to earn 500 a week on a part time basis and has very few overheads.

so you name your price what you think you can get away with and thats it.

SO if like the O.P you quote 400 quid and someone whos just starting out and has never earned 150 a day in his life comes along to quote your more than likely fecked..
Complete balls m8 you speak for yourself when it comes to getting things repossessed,if a job is worth 400 that's what it's worth but a new WC wouldn't know this so he would charge peanuts for it or 150 quid. I would pay a subby 200 to do that without my profit on top,and as for a new window cleaner doing it he wouldn't get a job like that or he wouldn't have the kit to reach any of it. A building that size is not a job for any new window cleaner.

Perfect Windows

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #124 on: March 18, 2016, 10:19:59 am »
There's a repeated mistake on this thread, namely people considering their costs when they price a job.

Do you really think about the cost of the components, assembly, shipping and retailing when you buy a phone (or anything else for that matter)?  No, you consider value for money for you (not price), balancing what you're paying against what you're getting.

So the question is not whether someone's making an exorbitant profit or too little profit (or if they have to fund a new pole or if they use two broomsticks taped together), it's a matter of what the customer will pay for the level of service you offer.

If you just go in with a price, you're competing on one aspect of the deal.  If you let the debate be just about price, you're stuffed unless you can cut service to the bone and go in lower than everyone else.  If you sell yourself as offering an insured, well-mannered, super service with bells and whistles of some kind (up to and including a free prostitute for the day for the person buying), you can charge more because the value for money is there.

So, in short, there is no "correct" price for any job.  There's just what someone will pay for the level of service you offer.

Vin

NWH

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #125 on: March 18, 2016, 10:22:39 am »
8weekly don't listen to any of this drivel what you quoted was more than fair I don't know the reasons for you not getting it but I can't think it was the price.

NWH

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #126 on: March 18, 2016, 10:28:37 am »
Anyone in a place like that would have in there mind roughly what they want to pay and it wouldn't be 150 quid,some keep saying they wouldn't be silly no they obviously wouldn't but they wouldn't think get him he's cheap they would think he's not gonna do a proper job at that price look how many Windows we have,they would go for one of the prices between 350-600 mark and choose the person they thought they'd get along with.

SeanK

Re: How much for this?
« Reply #127 on: March 18, 2016, 11:09:12 am »
Of course its relative, you get in where you fit it.

Thats why these threads are complete poope, if you drive brand new vans and have lots of overheads, have a massive mortage and want to be a millionaire you charge a hell of a lot more than the guy who want to earn 500 a week on a part time basis and has very few overheads.

so you name your price what you think you can get away with and thats it.

SO if like the O.P you quote 400 quid and someone whos just starting out and has never earned 150 a day in his life comes along to quote your more than likely fecked..
Complete balls m8 you speak for yourself when it comes to getting things repossessed,if a job is worth 400 that's what it's worth but a new WC wouldn't know this so he would charge peanuts for it or 150 quid. I would pay a subby 200 to do that without my profit on top,and as for a new window cleaner doing it he wouldn't get a job like that or he wouldn't have the kit to reach any of it. A building that size is not a job for any new window cleaner.

I think it was me who mentioned blow holes getting things repossessed, it wasn't mean as a slur on anybody who has been in that
position more as an explanation on why some need to blow their own trumpet.
Its not hard to spot the successful guys on here and very easy to unravel the rantings of a blow hole.

SeanK

Re: How much for this?
« Reply #128 on: March 18, 2016, 11:14:33 am »
By the way even though its hard to price a property by looking at a photo I also think that £150 for that property does
sound a bit on the low side especially if its not on the doorstep.

Smurf

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #129 on: March 18, 2016, 11:35:17 am »
The mind boggles how stupid some people are as I would just laugh and walk away if they expected me to do that lot for less than 400.  ;D

You charge VAT do you Smurf ? Or you not hit the threshold yet ?   ;D

I'm semi retarded (sorry mean retired) and in not very good health so am fortunate enough in a way I can pick and choose what jobs I take on. I also work very few hours compared to most which suites me just fine.

NWH

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #130 on: March 18, 2016, 04:46:54 pm »
I think this 150 quid figure is a joke isn't it,come on lads tell me it's a joke. 💸💸💸💸💸💸

Smurf

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #131 on: March 18, 2016, 04:49:44 pm »
I think this 150 quid figure is a joke isn't it,come on lads tell me it's a joke.

OK it's a joke. Happy now  ;D

CleanClear

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #132 on: March 18, 2016, 07:11:12 pm »
The mind boggles how stupid some people are as I would just laugh and walk away if they expected me to do that lot for less than 400.  ;D

You charge VAT do you Smurf ? Or you not hit the threshold yet ?   ;D

I'm semi retarded (sorry mean retired) and in not very good health so am fortunate enough in a way I can pick and choose what jobs I take on. I also work very few hours compared to most which suites me just fine.

Thats as diplomatic an answer as David Cameron would give  ;D  The answers, no then you havn't hit the plus 1K a week mark yet, but charge 400 for a days work . How come ?
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Smurf

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #133 on: March 18, 2016, 07:36:17 pm »
The mind boggles how stupid some people are as I would just laugh and walk away if they expected me to do that lot for less than 400.  ;D

You charge VAT do you Smurf ? Or you not hit the threshold yet ?   ;D

I'm semi retarded (sorry mean retired) and in not very good health so am fortunate enough in a way I can pick and choose what jobs I take on. I also work very few hours compared to most which suites me just fine.

Thats as diplomatic an answer as David Cameron would give  ;D  The answers, no then you havn't hit the plus 1K a week mark yet, but charge 400 for a days work . How come ?

You would need to hit or go over gross turnover of 82,000 in anyone year to trigger compolusory vat registration.
If my maths are right say you have a gross steady turnover of 1k a week that's only 52,000 a year whithout taking any holidays so why would you want all the agro to go vat registered if you don't need to.  ???

ChumBucket

Re: How much for this?
« Reply #134 on: March 18, 2016, 08:15:52 pm »
Cannae be bothered reading through the drivel but I do one very similar and it's £450. I look at that photo and see a "minimum" of £400- I wouldn't even consider anything less.

ChumBucket

Re: How much for this?
« Reply #135 on: March 18, 2016, 08:26:53 pm »
I quoted £400 plus VAT. I would have done it for £300 plus VAT but it wasn't guaranteed quarterly and I'd have to buy a 45 foot pole. The current cleaners charge £170 plus Vat.

The one I do which is similar (as described in my other post) was being done by a large commercial company before me. They made a complete mess and were called back to re-clean. On their "second" attempt they made an even worse job! Goes to show that not everyone is competent enough (or charge enough to care enough) to do this type of work to a sufficient standard. IMO this kind of job requires a price over and above you normal daily/hourly rate- or you may as well just do a day on 3 bed semis.

Smurf

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #136 on: March 19, 2016, 12:05:40 am »
I quoted £400 plus VAT. I would have done it for £300 plus VAT but it wasn't guaranteed quarterly and I'd have to buy a 45 foot pole. The current cleaners charge £170 plus Vat.

The one I do which is similar (as described in my other post) was being done by a large commercial company before me. They made a complete mess and were called back to re-clean. On their "second" attempt they made an even worse job! Goes to show that not everyone is competent enough (or charge enough to care enough) to do this type of work to a sufficient standard. IMO this kind of job requires a price over and above you normal daily/hourly rate- or you may as well just do a day on 3 bed semis.

Well said

Frankybadboy

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Re: How much for this?
« Reply #137 on: March 21, 2016, 08:29:08 pm »
we done a house the same as that and the out side would take one man 3-4 hrs max with a break and use less than 400 ltrs of water

 ;)

8weekly

Re: How much for this?
« Reply #138 on: March 22, 2016, 06:38:26 am »
we done a house the same as that and the out side would take one man 3-4 hrs max with a break and use less than 400 ltrs of water

 ;)
You might be right on the water, but there's no way that could be done in and out in 3 hours. I do one less than half the size of that every 2 months and it takes me over 3 hours. And they are still clean inside!

Frankybadboy

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Re: How much for this? New
« Reply #139 on: March 23, 2016, 06:55:47 pm »
we done a house the same as that and the out side would take one man 3-4 hrs max with a break and use less than 400 ltrs of water

 ;)
You might be right on the water, but there's no way that could be done in and out in 3 hours. I do one less than half the size of that every 2 months and it takes me over 3 hours. And they are still clean inside!
put your glasses on steve

3_4 hours for outside only as what you asked in your first post   ;) ;) ;) ;)