[NWH]

8 weekly asked me to clean it for him for £100 and I said only if I can do that roof round the back for free lol,he said if I give you £100 you will be doing it for free. 💸💸💸💸💸

[8weekly]

I quoted £400 plus VAT. I would have done it for £300 plus VAT but it wasn't guaranteed quarterly and I'd have to buy a 45 foot pole. The current cleaners charge £170 plus Vat.

[Tom-01]

Based on what you said about 2 guys 4 hours I would charge approx £400-£450 on a regular day 3 monthly schedule. That's 4 hours hard work and the amount of water it would use would be loads. Plus as you said longer poles etc needed which all cost money. If it was irregular I'd  add say 25%.

We've got a 6 weekly job at £390 takes two of us 3 hours, so that's how I based my pricing.

I reckon the commercial cleaning company is doing it for no more than £200.

Commercials always seem to be quite low priced I have found.

[Tom-01]

Ha so I was pretty much spot on!

I replied whilst you did. Maybe we should join forces 8weekly we'd be unstoppable! And NO free conny roof cleans! 😀

[Dave Willis]

8 weekly, one bloke or two 

[8weekly]

8 weekly, one bloke or two 

I was told it took two "lads" about 4 hours.

[Smurf]

I quoted £400 plus VAT. I would have done it for £300 plus VAT but it wasn't guaranteed quarterly and I'd have to buy a 45 foot pole. The current cleaners charge £170 plus Vat.

170 + vat my arse...That's including a 45 mile trip 

I think they where having you on mucker and like I suspected just time wasters. I would not do the front of that house for that let alone the whole building.

[Dave Willis]

Based on what you said about 2 guys 4 hours I would charge approx £400-£450 on a regular day 3 monthly schedule. That's 4 hours hard work and the amount of water it would use would be loads. Plus as you said longer poles etc needed which all cost money. If it was irregular I'd  add say 25%.

We've got a 6 weekly job at £390 takes two of us 3 hours, so that's how I based my pricing.

I reckon the commercial cleaning company is doing it for no more than £200.

Commercials always seem to be quite low priced I have found.

So you tend to earn £800 each on an eight hour day

[Tom-01]

8 weekly, one bloke or two 

I was told it took two "lads" about 4 hours.

I wonder if it's Mick Kent who has the contract there 8werkly?!

[Tom-01]

Based on what you said about 2 guys 4 hours I would charge approx £400-£450 on a regular day 3 monthly schedule. That's 4 hours hard work and the amount of water it would use would be loads. Plus as you said longer poles etc needed which all cost money. If it was irregular I'd  add say 25%.

We've got a 6 weekly job at £390 takes two of us 3 hours, so that's how I based my pricing.

I reckon the commercial cleaning company is doing it for no more than £200.

Commercials always seem to be quite low priced I have found.

So you tend to earn £800 each on an eight hour day

No we have one van at the moment, £800 a day on my own would take some doing!

[Dave Willis]

I see .........
You said £450 for four hours two men. So for eight hours you would want £900?
Do you pick up much work?

[8weekly]

You said £450 for four hours two men. So for eight hours you would want £900?
Do you pick up much work?

That would be 16 man hours though wouldn't it? £55 an hour.

[Smurf]

8 weekly, one bloke or two 

I was told it took two "lads" about 4 hours.

I wonder if it's Mick Kent who has the contract there 8werkly?!

At 170 + vat (x 2 men 4 hours plus a 45 min drive) he is more than welcome to it 
You would be actually losing money on that job tying up 2 workers for more than 5 hours inc travel for a poxy 170 squid job surely?

[Dave Willis]

I don't employ so some of the pricing makes no sense to me. An employee could be on less than £10 an hour.
If I cleaned that on my own and it took me all day then I wouldn't need more than £250 to keep me happy. No VAT to pay and lowish overheads.
Two employees might only cost £80 in wages for that, how can you justify a £450 bill for half a days work one van?

[Tom-01]

I see .........
You said £450 for four hours two men. So for eight hours you would want £900?
Do you pick up much work?

Yes, but that's 2 men working, so 8 working hours. On a job like that with two of us you've got to be looking at minimum £100 per hour.

Yes I get lots of work, not everything I price for but most of the time. 

[Tom-01]

I don't employ so some of the pricing makes no sense to me. An employee could be on less than £10 an hour.
If I cleaned that on my own and it took me all day then I wouldn't need more than £250 to keep me happy. No VAT to pay and lowish overheads.
Two employees might only cost £80 in wages for that, how can you justify a £450 bill for half a days work one van?

Because I could do £350-£400 a day on my own, so with two of us half a day seems about right. I doubt the second half of the day we would do the same again (travel, tired etc). Last Monday we did those figures you're mentioning just windows from 08:15 to 15:45. We don't do that every day but I know what the potential is to be earned.

[Dave Willis]

Which is why he didn't get the job I guess.

[Tom-01]

Sometimes its gutting when you get told you don't get jobs like that. But then when you hear what someone is doing it for its not then so bad!

Stack 'em high sell 'em cheap springs to mind. Basically just fill your books with loads of cheap work and get someone else to do it. No wonder they're shopping around, quality must be awful.

[Tom-01]

Which is why he didn't get the job I guess.

Yeah exactly. I think if you're on the tools yourself you pick nice work and price well. If you're employing you constantly need to be getting new work and commercial window cleaners do tend to be quite a bit cheaper to fill their books.

[Smurf]

We are in business to make a decent net profit on each job not lose money Dave.
For instance I did a gutter clearing job that took just over two and a half hours to do properly for £300... That’s working on my own.

I can't get my head around why so many want to charge so little on large window cleaning jobs like that as makes no sense to me whatsoever.