[lee_dewing]

£200

[lee_dewing]

£75 gutters, £25 windows, £100 fsg clean.

[Smurf]

Thanks  lee...anyone else?

[8weekly]

How many metres of guttering is it?

[David Beecroft]

Hi again Lee, I bought my Carbon poles and tools from these guys, http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/
I haven't any experience of other poles & fittings to compare them with but they work fine for me and the price is pretty good. I bought my 50mm hose direct from Numatic but as I said before I think Grippa Vac has it cheaper.
If you're like me and new to Gutter cleaning with a vacuum system expect it to be pretty frustrating at first, I have learned a lot from reading posts on this forum. Its still hard work but its another string to my bow.
David

[chris turner]

It's hard to be precise from the pics but probably between £160-£180.

Pricing can be a hard thing to get right, especially on commercial.
Iv just picked up 2 blocks of flats, they wanted a price to clean the windows quarterly and gutters once a year. I really wanted the job so went in on the lower end for the windows , but still at a rate I'm happy to earn in a day. Well turns out it was a fair bit cheaper then the previous vat reg company who they weren't happy with, so they accepted and asked for 8 weekly cleaning at that price.
By giving a good price I gained 2 extra days work.

The gutter quote was also accepted which is huge plus as its around 3× my average daily rate and I should get it done in a day.
I think because I gave a very good price for the windows they were happy to pay a premium for the gutters.
 Win win

[Smurf]

Regarding pricing it can be tricky one for sure as what some may think is expensive others think is cheap.
I think there is no right or wrong price if the customer is happy and you are happy what you get out of the job.

However after saying that it's very easy to undersell services if you're in the mindset to go in low every time to win work on price alone. Then you can end up regretting doing the work for that price as it turns out not as quick and easy as you thought it might be.

Regards to the example job I posted most would go in about 200-250 so Lee was the closest at £200.

I actually quoted £350 on that one and still got the job... go figure 

Out of choice I would rather just do top dollar gutter clearing jobs all day long than include f.s.g cleans aswell as to be honest f.s.g's can be a hard work, take a long time and pain in the arse to do properly.

For me it puts it into perspective when you get to do a gutter clearing job worth say £300 and takes around 2 hours to do rather than spending a lot more time and effort doing jobs like the one posted.




 

[chris turner]

Regarding pricing it can be tricky one for sure as what some may think is expensive others think is cheap.
I think there is no right or wrong price if the customer is happy and you are happy what you get out of the job.

However after saying that it's very easy to undersell services if you're in the mindset to go in low every time to win work on price alone. Then you can end up regretting doing the work for that price as it turns out not as quick and easy as you thought it might be.

Regards to the example job I posted most would go in about 200-250 so Lee was the closest at £200.

I actually quoted £350 on that one and still got the job... go figure 

Out of choice I would rather just do to dollar gutter clearing jobs all day long than include f.s.g cleans aswell as to be honest f.s.g's can be a hard work, take a long time and pain in the arse to do properly.

For me it puts it into perspective when you get to do a gutter clearing job worth say £300 and takes around 2 hours to do rather than spending a lot more time and effort doing jobs like the one posted.

I forgot to add the windows, so £200 - £220.
£160-£180 for just the guttering and fsg cleaning.

Your right though smurf there are no right or wrong prices, its whatever your happy with and how much the customer is willing to pay for the job.
I think if your busy and quoting one offs you can go in high and not worry about getting the work.
Whereas if its regular, good work on offer you need to think about the price a bit more.
It's a fine balance of putting in a price you want for the job but at the same time a price that actually gives you a chance of landing the work.

[Smurf]

Sorry for going off topic folks.
 
Anyhow I don't think it really matters what decent guttervac kit you decide to buy as if you price well it should pay for itself in no time.

[lee_dewing]

Hi again Lee, I bought my Carbon poles and tools from these guys, http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/
I haven't any experience of other poles & fittings to compare them with but they work fine for me and the price is pretty good. I bought my 50mm hose direct from Numatic but as I said before I think Grippa Vac has it cheaper.
If you're like me and new to Gutter cleaning with a vacuum system expect it to be pretty frustrating at first, I have learned a lot from reading posts on this forum. Its still hard work but its another string to my bow.
David

Thanks David.
I was looking at these people for complete guttervac but remembered Chris's vac packed up not long after he got it.

Also Chris mentioned adjustable neck broke

Maybe I'll chance poles and tools from these guys but not vac.

Smurf do you ever get customers saying you were quick e.g. Suggestion that you should be cheaper

One of my customers works in the office for a roofing company.

Told me when someone says that one of their jobs was done quick, he replies would you have paid more if it took longer than you thought?

After that no problems

[Smurf]

Hi again Lee, I bought my Carbon poles and tools from these guys, http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/
I haven't any experience of other poles & fittings to compare them with but they work fine for me and the price is pretty good. I bought my 50mm hose direct from Numatic but as I said before I think Grippa Vac has it cheaper.
If you're like me and new to Gutter cleaning with a vacuum system expect it to be pretty frustrating at first, I have learned a lot from reading posts on this forum. Its still hard work but its another string to my bow.
David

Smurf do you ever get customers saying you were quick e.g. Suggestion that you should be cheaper

One of my customers works in the office for a roofing company.

Told me when someone says that one of their jobs was done quick, he replies would you have paid more if it took longer than you thought?

After that no problems

That example job took 5 hours to do properly.  I did get a bit carried away as cleaned all the solar panels in the end for free. Needless to say the chap was well impressed as saved himself another £60 

[lal]

 Hi smurf, i would have said 350 pounds too, looking at your photos i was guessing there must be nearly 50 metres
 of gutters  x 3 pounds metre emptying = 150
                         x 3 pounds external G/F/S    =  150
                          windows cleaned                       =    50
                                                                     Total             350
 I agree with you totally, they can be hard work, i price well, the same as above, the ones i don't get I'm not bothered about,
 like you said they can get someone else to work for peanuts.

 Lal

[Smurf]

Nice one lal as I'm glad I'm not the only one that wants work at a decent price for all the effort.

A total of 5 hours that  one took me including
nipping back home to pick something up -20 mins,
dragged away to give a chap a quote accross the road - 10 mins,
3 cig & tea breaks - 30 mins
free solar panel clean -15 mins
chatting to the customer -30 ish mins

Like you say thoes sorts of jobs  can be very knackering to do and can't be rushed if you want to do a proper job.

[lee_dewing]

Smurf and lal.

How do you work out the metres of guttering?

Remember someone saying count gutter clips, 1 metre apart.

Lee

[lal]

Nice one lal as I'm glad I'm not the only one that wants work at a decent price for all the effort.

A total of 5 hours that  one took me including
nipping back home to pick something up -20 mins,
dragged away to give a chap a quote accross the road - 10 mins,
3 cig & tea breaks - 30 mins
free solar panel clean -15 mins
chatting to the customer -30 ish mins

Like you say thoes sorts of jobs  can be very knackering to do and can't be rushed if you want to do a proper job.

Hi Smurf,  ive been self employed window cleaning now 4 years here in Galway ireland,  (Originally from London) 
when i started out i made a few mistakes with pricing jobs like we all do, going in to cheap cos your afraid you won't get
the job, but i look back and treat it as a learning curve, these days I'm very confident with pricing, i would say i get 90% of
the jobs i quote for, as for gutter clearing  Fascia cleans you have to price to earn its hard dirty work, unless you want to
be a Busy Fool.

[chris turner]

Got to do the gutters on this beast in a couple of weeks. There's a smaller block of 5 flats next to it as well.
Will be the biggest gutter job iv done yet with the vac, hoping to crack it out in a day then take the rest of the week off to recover!

[lal]

Smurf and lal.

How do you work out the metres of guttering?

Remember someone saying count gutter clips, 1 metre apart.

Lee

Hi Lee, i used to count the gutter clips, but found a lot of the time the clips were a lot more than a metre apart, so wasn't
happy doing it that way, don't think the customers were impressed either looking up mumbling numbers to my self, these
days i use a surveyors measuring tape, very accurate and definitely looks more professional.

Lal

[Smurf]

Gutter clip should be  set closer than a metre apart if fitted properly so you can count the clips and just round it up to get a rough idea.

Another quick way is to do what I call a silly walk and just pace it out using what's know as a surveyors pace which if done right will be roughly a metre for every pace you take.

You can also download and use the measuring tools on goggle earth pro for free that I mentioned in another thread.

Regards pricing I don’t just go on how many metres there are but also factor in how bad & awkward the job is going to be too.  Plus I also factor in additional costs like travel time, mileage etc.

[8weekly]

Is this the deal on ebay you were referring to?

Just seems a bit cheap compared to Guttersucker's own price.

[Tom-01]

About £320 for that job, two of us get it done in half a day.