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lee_dewing

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this wet and dry vac any good?
« on: March 07, 2016, 10:31:58 pm »
As title
 http://chemiclean.co.uk/Numatic2.htm

WVD-570-2 (3rd one down).

Any good as a guttervac?

I know machine is small in size but spec looks good.
Think that's the same a grippavac machine they advertise smaller vac for small van owners £700.

Or have I got it wrong.
Thanks lee.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

chris turner

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2016, 10:52:50 pm »
As title
 http://chemiclean.co.uk/Numatic2.htm

WVD-570-2 (3rd one down).

Any good as a guttervac?

I know machine is small in size but spec looks good.
Think that's the same a grippavac machine they advertise smaller vac for small van owners £700.

Or have I got it wrong.
Thanks lee.

Hi Lee, did you get my email?

The gutter sucker gold pro package is around £700. 3000 w triple motor vac, carbon poles.
Can't go wrong.

lee_dewing

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2016, 11:20:42 pm »
Thanks very much Chris.

Just read your email and responded.

I'll checkout those recommendations now.

Do you have a minimum charge? (gutter vac)

Glad to hear your busy.
Sorry to hear about problems you mentioned.
Not funny   :o

Lee

Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

chris turner

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2016, 07:30:10 am »
Yes £3 per metre minimum charge, with a discount for regular customers.

David Beecroft

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2016, 07:36:37 am »
Hi Lee, if you decide on a Numatic machine you'd be better to buy this from Avern Industrial. Its already got the 50mm side Cyclonic entry port fitted. Just buy the machine not the Gutter Kit as its made up of 38mm Numatic steel poles, too narrow, too heavy. You would still need to buy 50mm hose (Grippa Vac seem reasonably priced) and poles , tools etc. I dealt with Avern when I bought mine and found their customer service excellent. https://www.averncleaningsupplies.com/WVD900-GD-Gutter-Vacuum-Cleaner-Drain-Numatic&filter_name=Gutter%20Cleaning
Hope you get on okay.

lee_dewing

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2016, 02:03:43 pm »
Thanks for that link David.

So you got the wet and dry vac from Avern.
Think I remember you saying you were very pleased with the vac and its cleared all gutter jobs no problem.

Then got your poles, nozzles, tubing from grippavac?

I know the numatics have a 2yr warranty.

I have a ford escort van I'll have to get measurements of vac to make sure fits alright, sure it will.

Just some of the vacs seem quite large.
I know grippavac sell smaller numatic, exactly same spec as yours just smaller size say 30 litre but £700 :o

The only thing I remember reading with the grippavac tools is they don't have a narrow nozzle option for tight gutters.
Is that right?

Thanks lee.
Ps sorry if my message is a bit muddled on quick lunch break. ;D
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

lee_dewing

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2016, 02:31:55 pm »
Chris, checked out gutter sucker.

Window cleaning warehouse sell.

Gold package with vat £888.

Is that to do with skyvac? Or another company?

I know the atom is skyvac but think that is only 1400watts.

Regarding gutter clearing I was thinking £60 minimum charge.

I suppose you can offer to inspect custies gutters with camera on end of wfp pole for a reasonable charge.

Then knock of inspection charge if custie goes for gutter clearing.

Gutter clearing 3 bed semi £75.
Say £15 inspection

If inspection turns into a gutter clearing job then £60

Do you have a camera Chris do you find it wise to so customers before after pics?

Just thinking If customers sign up for a regular annual gutter clearing, they might realise from camera images there gutters aren't that dirty.

Instead of leave my windows this month there not that dirty.

It will be leave my gutters this year there not that bad ;D

 ;D

Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

chris turner

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2016, 06:01:28 pm »
Chris, checked out gutter sucker.

Window cleaning warehouse sell.

Gold package with vat £888.

Is that to do with skyvac? Or another company?

I know the atom is skyvac but think that is only 1400watts.

Regarding gutter clearing I was thinking £60 minimum charge.

I suppose you can offer to inspect custies gutters with camera on end of wfp pole for a reasonable charge.

Then knock of inspection charge if custie goes for gutter clearing.

Gutter clearing 3 bed semi £75.
Say £15 inspection

If inspection turns into a gutter clearing job then £60

Do you have a camera Chris do you find it wise to so customers before after pics?

Just thinking If customers sign up for a regular annual gutter clearing, they might realise from camera images there gutters aren't that dirty.

Instead of leave my windows this month there not that dirty.

It will be leave my gutters this year there not that bad ;D

 ;D

You can get the gutter sucker package direct from them on eBay for £780.

I don't have a minimum price, I charge £3 per metre with a discount for regular window cleaning customers.
Yea don't bother with inspections, when a customer asks to have their gutters cleared just price it up and do the job. Even if the gutters are pretty empty just whip around with the vac and charge full price.
Most people just want it done anyway even if there's only a few bits of moss in there, just for peace of mind.
I may hop up on the ladder briefly just to get an idea of what's up there or what attachment I need to use.

Having done a fair few jobs with the vac now iv realised a camara isn't really that necessary. You get a feel for it and can judge pretty well if the gutters are cleared. 
I just think inspections are a waste of time, customer wants gutters cleared, I give price, customer says yes or no, if yes I get out the vac and whip around and clear whatever is in the gutters, job done, leave the bill.
Some jobs the gutters may be packed and take longer, other jobs are dead easy and may only take half as long as planned.
I had this 2 weeks ago, a small block of 4 flats I thought would take minimum 2 hours took me only an hour. There was about 4 bits of moss in my vac at the end. Probably the easiest £130 iv ever earnt.

lee_dewing

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2016, 08:31:56 pm »
Thanks very much for your posts Chris.

Much appreciated.

Forgot to ask have you had to go up the ladder yet for anything the vac can't handle?

I.e blocked downpipe?

Never offered a gutter clearing service due wanting to keep my feet on the ground, as wfp.

Thanks lee.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

chris turner

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2016, 08:54:39 pm »
Thanks very much for your posts Chris.

Much appreciated.

Forgot to ask have you had to go up the ladder yet for anything the vac can't handle?

I.e blocked downpipe?

Never offered a gutter clearing service due wanting to keep my feet on the ground, as wfp.

Thanks lee.

The vac has handled everything so far, even blocked downpipes. I usually put on the thinner head that slides right into the downpipe.
Ladder does come in handy though to get to awkward, hard to access gutters.

lee_dewing

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2016, 09:21:07 pm »
Thanks again Chris

Just looked on ebay at gutter sucker.

Thanks for tip, £100 cheaper.

Email'd them to get dimensions of vac. :)
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

David Beecroft

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2016, 10:22:40 pm »
Hello again Lee, I didn't buy anything from Grippa Vac, I just seem to remember that their 50mm hose was good value. If you shop around you can save money on carbon poles etc.  :)

lee_dewing

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2016, 08:10:58 am »
Hi  David.

Yes seem to remember smudger had some custom made by a carbon manufacturing company.

Forgot to say if I go for buying a vac now do you think it might not get used much?

Better to wait til late summer, ready for autumn?

I could get some fascia soffit gutter cleaning leaflets done though with also gutter clearing on.

Much appreciated Chris and David for the info.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

chris turner

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2016, 11:16:57 am »
Hi  David.

Yes seem to remember smudger had some custom made by a carbon manufacturing company.

Forgot to say if I go for buying a vac now do you think it might not get used much?

Better to wait til late summer, ready for autumn?

I could get some fascia soffit gutter cleaning leaflets done though with also gutter clearing on.

Much appreciated Chris and David for the info.

I'm doing far more gutter jobs at the moment then I did through the whole of autumn/winter.
Averaging 2 or 3 a week as well as usual window rounds.
If you push the service you can get gutter work most of the year round.

lee_dewing

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2016, 11:03:23 am »
Chris glad to hear that. :)

I spoke to the guy once where you bought your gutter vacuum.

He said that if you don't get greedy with your prices you'd be busy all year.

I believe that now coming from yourself, rather that the man selling the equipment. ;D

Stay busy Chris.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

lee_dewing

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2016, 11:06:45 am »
David.

Where was all your gutter vac equipment from?

Avern for numatic vac £500 ish.

But where dud you get poles (carbon?) also end tools and hose?

Thanks lee.
Sandwich break over :(
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Smurf

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2016, 12:34:26 pm »
Chris glad to hear that. :)

I spoke to the guy once where you bought your gutter vacuum.

He said that if you don't get greedy with your prices you'd be busy all year.

I believe that now coming from yourself, rather that the man selling the equipment. ;D

Stay busy Chris.

Still you don't want to be running around like a headless chicken either earning next to bugger all.  Gutter clearing & downspout unblocking can be hard mucky work even using a guttervac. That said you need to price well or not bother at all and let someone else do it for peanuts.  It is up to the individual what they charge but I soon learnt that underselling a gutter clearing service you might as well stay on the glass.

Some jobs using a guttervac are a doddle to do and others you will find are a real pain in the arse. Don't expect every gutter job just to do with a guttervac either as ladders and/or other suitable access equipment are somtimes required too.

Just interested how much you chaps would charge to check/clear the gutters & downspouts. Then clean the fascias, soffits, gutters and windows on this extened semi. Guttering runs along  3 sides of the property and office is included in the price at the rear.

And no I'm not cleaning those solar panels on the roof if anyone asks as they are self cleaning glass don't you know ;D

Closest price wins.








Smurf

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2016, 04:19:52 pm »
Hello anyone out there want to have a stab at the price of that one. :P

Mike55

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2016, 06:21:02 pm »
Hello anyone out there want to have a stab at the price of that one. :P

£145 including extension and garage conversion

Smurf

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Re: this wet and dry vac any good?
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2016, 06:24:23 pm »
Thanks Mike...Anyone else?