[Smurf]

Found this link that you may find interesting as someone has deliberately gone out of their way to try educate people what products to use when softwashing buildings. http://www.benzsoftwash.biz/

I don't think the chap at Benz https://www.benzsoftwash.com is going to be very happy when he finds out do you? 

[mark m]

Soft washing is going to be big this year and looks like the war has begun

[Smurf]

Indeed Mark...

I don't get involved in roofs but this looks a quick way to brush moss off roof tiles before applying algopro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-PW9tS1MuU

[Smurf]

I see the chap from Benz has already found out and he is not a happy bunny... just scroll down the page  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Algoclear/149192895272293#!/pages/Algoclear/149192895272293

[mark m]

I just spoke to Cormac and apparently it is a old post from algo clear I wont go into any details but I don't think I will be putting them next to each other at my show  

[Tadgh O Shea]

Hi Smurf, i am also from Cork and have given up trying to warn guys about the use of sodium hypochlorite, and also on the use of cleaning chemicals based on sodium hydroxide these warnings were based on my own experiences from using such harsh and aggressive chemicals over many years myself.  I have even said on some of my posts that i am sure guys are sick of me harping on about the use of harsh and aggressive cleaning chemicals and the detrimental damage they will cause to many different types of surfaces.
I have thought for a long time now that the cleaning industry is indeed a very dirty industry and i blame the manufacturers big and small of cleaning chemicals who produce products many of which are caustic corrosive and toxic but really do they care i think not.  I believed their sales and marketing crap for many years and listened to plenty of bullpoop over them years. I eventually copped on and gave up supporting them and now only support producers who do really care. and thankfully there are more and more janitorial suppliers across Ireland and the UK who are now promoting safe and effective alternatives when it comes to cleaning all types of surfaces.

[Smurf]

I just spoke to Cormac and apparently it is a old post from algo clear I wont go into any details but I don't think I will be putting them next to each other at my show

I don't think it would go down too well if you did...Pistols at dawn and all that 

[Smurf]

Mark, I hope you did not invite http://www.softwashing.uk too as all hell would break out methinks 

[Smurf]

Hi Smurf, i am also from Cork and have given up trying to warn guys about the use of sodium hypochlorite, and also on the use of cleaning chemicals based on sodium hydroxide these warnings were based on my own experiences from using such harsh and aggressive chemicals over many years myself.  I have even said on some of my posts that i am sure guys are sick of me harping on about the use of harsh and aggressive cleaning chemicals and the detrimental damage they will cause to many different types of surfaces.
I have thought for a long time now that the cleaning industry is indeed a very dirty industry and i blame the manufacturers big and small of cleaning chemicals who produce products many of which are caustic corrosive and toxic but really do they care i think not.  I believed their sales and marketing crap for many years and listened to plenty of bullpoop over them years. I eventually copped on and gave up supporting them and now only support producers who do really care. and thankfully there are more and more janitorial suppliers across Ireland and the UK who are now promoting safe and effective alternatives when it comes to cleaning all types of surfaces.

I think may cleaners including myself are now looking into, want to use or now use alternatives to harsh cleaning chemicals.

[Dave Willis]

Interesting. Can Algoclear be pumped through a backpack through a normal wfp with fan jets? Can it be used on Limewash? Do you need a small waffle cloth?

[Smurf]

No I don't think a backpack would  be any good as you need a good flow rate and bar pressure to saturate the walls apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AT5vsaGyRk

I'm also after a cheaper way to get into this too as decent kit seems very expensive to buy.

[Dave Willis]

I have a pressure washer and a lance - I reckon that's a fair few gallons required to do the side of a house though.

[Smudger]

Good thread smurf - is that mr snott on the algo pro page ??

I personally don't like these "everyone else is wrong" style campaigns - it never works out for any party, esp. As you can buy an algo clear equivalent for pennies compared to their "branded" version.

Quats/ammonium also has risks and hazards if used carelessly so it's almost a kettle and pot situation.

Yes the softwashing is gaining great popularity at the moment, driven in part by lots of bad operators ( of the travelling variety ) who wreck roofs and repaint with the wrong stuff etc...

Give it a year or two when they cotton on to the phrase "soft wash" and use the "six months to take effect clause" to just spray soapy water over the roof and run - leaving the home owner wondering why the moss is still growing, then softwashing will appear on watch dog and the whole process becomes tainted and perceived as rubbish.

Darran

[Smudger]

I've applied it via a backpack Dave - goes on really well as does hypo 

People making these machines love us to spend a fortune you know !!!

Of course it's a bit slower with a back pack, I also use "X-jet" a chem pick up that delivers chems from the pw at low pressure 

Darran

[slap bash]

Why is a new approach be a war. Sensationalizing  is just a lot of crap. Really@## its not new its been done before if you were well informed.  Is from Yorkshire by any chance.

[Smurf]

I was thinking of getting this a while back but the price put me off somewhat  https://www.softwashtechnology.co.uk/collections/softwash-systems/products/softwash-systems-honda-gx120-bowser-unit-comet-acid-pump

[Smudger]

I must be missing something, it's a baby pw/ with a tank and frame £600 at the most retail. Surely a man of your skills could cobble something together in a few hours ?

Darran

[Smurf]

Why is a new approach be a war. Sensationalizing  is just a lot of crap. Really@##

The debate has been going on a while but for someone to go out of their way to create a website with a similar name as a supplier to deliberately discredit that company takes some beating methinks. 

[Smurf]

I must be missing something, it's a baby pw/ with a tank and frame £600 at the most retail. Surely a man of your skills could cobble something together in a few hours ?

Darran

Indeed you could...The type of delivery pump used is the most important thing on that setup. https://www.softwashtechnology.co.uk/collections/pumps/products/comet-mc18-viton-diaphragm-pump

[Matt.]

In theory ye ...... Am thinking as am writing so be with me

I see Ben ( I think ) had some 12v pumps on his site that are capable on 12-15lpm, if you have another tank in the van and set pump up same way we wfp would this not give us what we need, maybe using wider hose, pole hose and bigger jets.