[sean oregan]

Personally I would go full size machine first as this will do everything! Then as you build up your business and if you feel the need you can add a smaller machine.
Bet you don't consider getting one! As full size will do everything for you.
Just my thoughts!

[jasonl]

My cub does every size job, its the same amount of buckets whatever size portable machine, same amount of filling too, it is light  has ample power and is just a small cog in my business, the marketing machine being the most important one.

[john martin]

My cub does every size job, its the same amount of buckets whatever size portable machine, same amount of filling too, it is light  has ample power and is just a small cog in my business, the marketing machine being the most important one.

But if the marketing is working good you have to get the work done quick and Efficiently ?   Each to their own but i can help feel its slowing u down .   Bet if got a full size machine with heat you would never go back .   

[SteveAllan]

[bennymon]

One thing to remember as a newbie is its the results that matter do a good job people get you back and will recommend you . Your machine will never be a selling point . Much as people go on about I've got this machine and that machine or truck mount the customers don't give a toss  they know nothing about what you use and don't care as long as they get a clean carpet .

[Darran Pryce]

My Cub came yesterday... Let me show you the bucket challange to sort the debate out once and for all.  Will a bucket fit under the waste outlet without tilting it?  https://youtu.be/1g9q_8VNBa4

[john martin]

Is that a small flowerpot or a bucket .
Anyway wait til clean a puke stain and it's lodged in the bottom inch ....youl be lifting and tilting then.

At best it's a low spec spotter .

[Darran Pryce]

  at above comment.

[JandS]

Think John has a bone to pick with Nick......my Ninja tank is the same.......and a bucket just fits under but I do have  right angled bend on it.

[davep]

Darran, a bucket can fit, but you do need to tilt it and wobble it about to empty it as an inch the waste outlet is higher than the base of the machine.  Stupid design and annoying!

[CleanerCarpets]

But Ed says its not a design fault - but a thought about design better than others 

[Darran Pryce]

Dave,  not sure about everyone else but i never fill my bucket right to the brim... otherwise you'll be making more work for yourself.  The bucket we use slides easily underneath and back out again without having to tilt it. The video shows that!

Even if the tank needs two, three visits to empty it, it doesn't bother me. 

Even if I have to tilt the machine, I'm not bothered by it.  What bothers me is making sure the customer is happy with the result. 

What  might be a niggle/gripe for some,  doesn't mean it is for another operator!

[sean oregan]

I think originally the outlet had a bend in it so bucket didn't fit, but as can clearly be seen bucket now fits.

Has bucketgate ended

[Carpet Dawg]

I think originally the outlet had a bend in it so bucket didn't fit, but as can clearly be seen bucket now fits.

Has bucketgate ended

There is a U bend that comes with waste tank valves. The one in the video has had the U bend removed. It just slides on and off. I prefer the U bend being there as it directs the waste water straight in to the bucket. Without it it'll splash all over the place unless slowly release the  valve and potentially have to angle the bucket as the water will have a tendency to go straight out rather than down. If that makes sense lol

[Carpet Dawg]

Dave,  not sure about everyone else but i never fill my bucket right to the brim... otherwise you'll be making more work for yourself.  The bucket we use slides easily underneath and back out again without having to tilt it. The video shows that!

Even if the tank needs two, three visits to empty it, it doesn't bother me. 

Even if I have to tilt the machine, I'm not bothered by it.  What bothers me is making sure the customer is happy with the result. 

What  might be a niggle/gripe for some,  doesn't mean it is for another operator!

What Dave and John are talking about is the last inch or so of waste water inside of the WASTE TANK. To empty this waste water, you'll need to tilt the machine to get it out of the machine. Nothing to do with getting a bucket under the machine or about how many trips you have to make to empty the machine.

If you enjoy the hassle of tilting the machine several times a day then you have got the right machine for your business. Well done.

[sean oregan]

I think originally the outlet had a bend in it so bucket didn't fit, but as can clearly be seen bucket now fits.

Has bucketgate ended

There is a U bend that comes with waste tank valves. The one in the video has had the U bend removed. It just slides on and off. I prefer the U bend being there as it directs the waste water straight in to the bucket. Without it it'll splash all over the place unless slowly release the  valve and potentially have to angle the bucket as the water will have a tendency to go straight out rather than down. If that makes sense lol

Yeah that makes sense!
Next thing jag owners will be telling us is we aren't any good at our job because we don't use woc. Lol
Jesting

[JandS]

Not exactly an hassle tilting the machine...takes about 5 seconds when wheeling it back to van.
It's usually empty anyway as when I rinse it out at the end of the job I tilt usually into the garden.

[Jennifer w]

Hi guys,

Surely you'd just open the gate valve and let it go down the drain wouldn't you?

Or am I missing something?

Jen

[john martin]

The gap is no mystery or no design  its simply this  ...

The cub (or jag )  is no overall design as such ... its three simple molds  , the cub had two rectangular containers  on top
bit like this
http://www.tanks-direct.co.uk/10-50_litre_water_tanks/32_ltr_water_tank

To mount the waste gate u first have to put a tank connector in place to hold the wastgate ..   a bit like this
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2100/a951f/products/485/images/1012/Hansen_Outlet02__59607.1346754102.1280.1280.png?c=2

as u can see u cant mount this right down the bottom of the tank as u need to leave a small space for the bits that tighten the holepipe of the connector in place  ....  then u connect the waste gate to that .

A modern machine is more of a design unit and has a molded tank bottom with a slope to flush the waste out and a lowered waste gate fitting to ensure all waste id removed .

The point i was making is why ...oh why would u go for these  outdated flawed ' designs ' when there is better available to u
...in every way from , quality , power , heat , ergonomics , manoeuvrability .

And u guys using these single vacs as a ' main ' extractor ' ?   u need to step your game up  and improve your efficiency and make life easier for yourselves.
If the likes of ED.V or the Nick guy was getting back into carpet cleaning again do u think they would be using a cub ... hell no ,  there would be power and heat involved ,  they all had multi vac machines or Tms and lots of  Heat !
those guys are laughing at you all   

[sean oregan]

The gap is no mystery or no design  its simply this  ...

The cub (or jag )  is no overall design as such ... its three simple molds  , the cub had two rectangular containers  on top
bit like this
http://www.tanks-direct.co.uk/10-50_litre_water_tanks/32_ltr_water_tank

To mount the waste gate u first have to put a tank connector in place to hold the wastgate ..   a bit like this
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2100/a951f/products/485/images/1012/Hansen_Outlet02__59607.1346754102.1280.1280.png?c=2

as u can see u cant mount this right down the bottom of the tank as u need to leave a small space for the bits that tighten the holepipe of the connector in place  ....  then u connect the waste gate to that .

A modern machine is more of a design unit and has a molded tank bottom with a slope to flush the waste out and a lowered waste gate fitting to ensure all waste id removed .

The point i was making is why ...oh why would u go for these  outdated flawed ' designs ' when there is better available to u
...in every way from , quality , power , heat , ergonomics , manoeuvrability .

And u guys using these single vacs as a ' main ' extractor ' ?   u need to step your game up  and improve your efficiency and make life easier for yourselves.
If the likes of ED.V or the Nick guy was getting back into carpet cleaning again do u think they would be using a cub ... hell no ,  there would be power and heat involved ,  they all had multi vac machines or Tms and lots of  Heat !
those guys are laughing at you all   

very difficult to argue with that.
So yes,  you can get by with a cub but why would you.
Have pride in your business