[Dan Wileman]

I can fit a bucket under my cub?! Am I doing something wrong...?

is this it ?

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Would you like a picture of a real bucket under a cub?!

[john martin]

I can fit a bucket under my cub?! Am I doing something wrong...?

is this it ?

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/91938995-childs-red-spade-and-blue-sand-bucket-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=dAan0XrRK0ySouv7sxhzdk8t4PpHeNNCe8F74SPcg1ByIoCvoFSpHalu3cp2wxXH

Would you like a picture of a real bucket under a cub?!

if u want , there are different buckets .
I know what im talking about , like i said before years ago i picked up a used scorpion and the spotter thing and had it for a few months .
The spotter was the same base and therefore the same height as the cub , i only used it a couple of times cause water came through the vacs as quickly as u sucked it up .... but i had to lift it a bit to get it to the bucket ...and tilt it ...or tilt the bucket

[Adam Eastman]

John, I am starting from scratch having to buy everything, so £300 saving is 'significant' amount to me.

I'm not to concerned on appearance either to be honest, the first impression the customer is going get of my company is me (apart from marketing ect) as long as I'm smartly presented and I can sell myself and do a good job, I'm hoping that will stand me I good stead.

what are u getting for 300  ?

The Cub is £300 cheaper then the 6.6 single vac mini when bought as part of a package. Clean smart don't offer any discount on the machine, only on the extras and chems, where as Solutions offer a discount on the machine as well as discount on the extras and chemicals.

[john martin]

so how much is the overall package and what are u getting  ...  a wand ,  25ft hose ... what else

[Carpet2Clean]

Hi Adam

Give Alltec a call and see if they have any deals on the Express machine including wand & hose.

Go for the electro motors and in-line heater set up.
 
Richard

[Adam Eastman]

so how much is the overall package and what are u getting  ...  a wand ,  25ft hose ... what else

It really depends on what you want from the package, basically both companies give you a list of options and you can pretty much cater it to your own preference. The accessories are pretty much the same price, apart from the TM3 being 20% cheaper from Solutions, and then the actual machine and chems are also more competitively priced in the solutions package.

[Adam Eastman]

Hi Adam

Give Alltec a call and see if they have any deals on the Express machine including wand & hose.

Go for the electro motors and in-line heater set up.
 
Richard

Thanks for the advice Richard

I have already been in contact with Altec, and although really nice guys and helpful, again there package price wasn't as competitive. I did go on there one day course last month held by Paul Pearce, which was a great day, very knowledgable chap.

[john martin]

are you sure the package is saving u 300 on the machine or are u just getting fairly low worth chemicals and stuff and thats making up the discount on the machine. As in is it like with like when u compare the two  packages , exact same items .

[Adam Eastman]

are you sure the package is saving u 300 on the machine or are u just getting fairly low worth chemicals and stuff and thats making up the discount on the machine. As in is it like with like when u compare the two  packages , exact same items .

It's defiantly £300 cheaper for just the machine alone. As mentioned previously, then you pick your accessories which are similar price apart from the TM3 being cheaper at solutions and then the chems are cheaper as well from solutions.

[john martin]

are you sure the package is saving u 300 on the machine or are u just getting fairly low worth chemicals and stuff and thats making up the discount on the machine. As in is it like with like when u compare the two  packages , exact same items .

It's defiantly £300 cheaper for just the machine alone. As mentioned previously, then you pick your accessories which are similar price apart from the TM3 being cheaper at solutions and then the chems are cheaper as well from solutions.

ok ... so if u just buy the machine on its own without the package the difference is small right ?
and then u buy your wand and hose like i suggested ... thats about 1600
and u buy a couple of chemicals of you choice from wherever  ...
how much is the difference between that and ' the package ' ?

[Adam Eastman]

are you sure the package is saving u 300 on the machine or are u just getting fairly low worth chemicals and stuff and thats making up the discount on the machine. As in is it like with like when u compare the two  packages , exact same items .

No not really small, if you buy the machine on its own its an extra £200 to the saving made when buying as a package and then the chems are massively discounted too.  The two jet wand in the package is slightly more then the single jet wand in the link that you sent, but then your not comparing like with like on the wand.

It's defiantly £300 cheaper for just the machine alone. As mentioned previously, then you pick your accessories which are similar price apart from the TM3 being cheaper at solutions and then the chems are cheaper as well from solutions.

ok ... so if u just buy the machine on its own without the package the difference is small right ?
and then u buy your wand and hose like i suggested ... thats about 1600
and u buy a couple of chemicals of you choice from wherever  ...
how much is the difference between that and ' the package ' ?

No not really small difference, the machine is £ 200 cheaper when bought in the package deal compared to buying on its own, then the chems are hugely discounted too. The two jet wand in the package is slightly more then the single jet wand you sent me the link for, but then your not comparing like for like.

[Carpet Dawg]

Adam, you cant compare chems like for like. There's a reason you pay more for certain brands of chems. They work better, faster, protect your machinery etc

Speak to Matt at CleanSmart and go for something like a Airflex Storm, Turbo or the Pro. Basically, get a full sized machine now! I personally couldn't be bothered fannying about with a small extractor. Your going to constantly be emptying and filling... boring and tiring! Much bigger tanks makes a huge difference. And more power makes........?

Think of it as an investment in your business not an expense.  An asset that you can sell if you need to.

I take my Storm up and down 3rd story tenements all day long. Weight is not an issue as long as the machine is empty.
The other benefit of having a more powerful machine is that you'll be able to do 50" to 100" hose runs. So you'll be able to leave your machine outside while you do the whole house. Or leave the machine in the hall way downstairs while doing the rooms upstairs.

If your still determined to get the smaller machine then I personally wouldn't go for the cub! I've heard nothing but bad reviews with the whole design and function of the machines (expect the odd exception). Do you really want all that stress with emptying the machine after every carpet? Sounds like a royal pain in the bum! For a lousy £200 go for the better machine. You can make that back with one job and more. You'll thank me later.

Oh, and if you do go for the cub report back to us after a few weeks and let us know how it worked out for you
 

[sean oregan]

Since making the switch from woc chemicals to decent stuff from Alltec and Restoremate I don't need to use my crb nowhere near as much.
I will be buying a duo soon as with decent chemicals you don't need to agitate for England.
That will save you £1k

But just go with what you think is best, people are just trying to stop you wasting money and time.
People on other forum will be telling you that they get great results, their business has leaped forward since using woc etc etc
Just remember some on their act like just normal carpet cleaners but they are also share holders in woc.
Don't get me wrong their are a few decent people on their.

[Adam Eastman]

Adam, you cant compare chems like for like. There's a reason you pay more for certain brands of chems. They work better, faster, protect your machinery etc

Speak to Matt at CleanSmart and go for something like a Airflex Storm, Turbo or the Pro. Basically, get a full sized machine now! I personally couldn't be bothered fannying about with a small extractor. Your going to constantly be emptying and filling... boring and tiring! Much bigger tanks makes a huge difference. And more power makes........?

Think of it as an investment in your business not an expense.  An asset that you can sell if you need to.

I take my Storm up and down 3rd story tenements all day long. Weight is not an issue as long as the machine is empty.
The other benefit of having a more powerful machine is that you'll be able to do 50" to 100" hose runs. So you'll be able to leave your machine outside while you do the whole house. Or leave the machine in the hall way downstairs while doing the rooms upstairs.

If your still determined to get the smaller machine then I personally wouldn't go for the cub! I've heard nothing but bad reviews with the whole design and function of the machines (expect the odd exception). Do you really want all that stress with emptying the machine after every carpet? Sounds like a royal pain in the bum! For a lousy £200 go for the better machine. You can make that back with one job and more. You'll thank me later.

Oh, and if you do go for the cub report back to us after a few weeks and let us know how it worked out for you

Thanks for the feedback, I did mention in one of my earlier posts that I would be adding a bigger machine later on down the line. What I'm looking from this purchase is something that will do the job, but is also light and easy to move around (running up flights of stairs to a 3rd or 4th flat with a 40-50kg machine wouldn't work for me personally).

I'm not sure what you mean with regards to spending the extra £200 for a better machine. Are we then back to the mini? If that's the case, I think the cub is the better one for what I need, it's lighter and has bigger solution tanks, and it's £300 cheaper.

It's going to be a while yet, but when I do, I will be sure to give you my feedback on the machine and if it was the right choice. 

[bennymon]

Get the alltec express and be done with it   

[Carpet Dawg]

Adam, you cant compare chems like for like. There's a reason you pay more for certain brands of chems. They work better, faster, protect your machinery etc

Speak to Matt at CleanSmart and go for something like a Airflex Storm, Turbo or the Pro. Basically, get a full sized machine now! I personally couldn't be bothered fannying about with a small extractor. Your going to constantly be emptying and filling... boring and tiring! Much bigger tanks makes a huge difference. And more power makes........?

Think of it as an investment in your business not an expense.  An asset that you can sell if you need to.

I take my Storm up and down 3rd story tenements all day long. Weight is not an issue as long as the machine is empty.
The other benefit of having a more powerful machine is that you'll be able to do 50" to 100" hose runs. So you'll be able to leave your machine outside while you do the whole house. Or leave the machine in the hall way downstairs while doing the rooms upstairs.

If your still determined to get the smaller machine then I personally wouldn't go for the cub! I've heard nothing but bad reviews with the whole design and function of the machines (expect the odd exception). Do you really want all that stress with emptying the machine after every carpet? Sounds like a royal pain in the bum! For a lousy £200 go for the better machine. You can make that back with one job and more. You'll thank me later.

Oh, and if you do go for the cub report back to us after a few weeks and let us know how it worked out for you

Thanks for the feedback, I did mention in one of my earlier posts that I would be adding a bigger machine later on down the line. What I'm looking from this purchase is something that will do the job, but is also light and easy to move around (running up flights of stairs to a 3rd or 4th flat with a 40-50kg machine wouldn't work for me personally).

I'm not sure what you mean with regards to spending the extra £200 for a better machine. Are we then back to the mini? If that's the case, I think the cub is the better one for what I need, it's lighter and has bigger solution tanks, and it's £300 cheaper.

It's going to be a while yet, but when I do, I will be sure to give you my feedback on the machine and if it was the right choice. 

Well if buying twice makes sense to you then go right ahead Adam. Seems like your mind was made up over buying the Cub anyway.

[JandS]

I won't go above 1st floor flats w/o a lift unless there is someone there to help me carry everything up and back down.
Did a 2nd floor one the other week, guy was a 25 year old plasterer, he took the Ninja up for me.

[JandS]

So in my opinion go straight for the bigger machine..........plenty of flats round here  but think I did around 9 or 10 last year above ground floor with no lift so no big deal.
On 2 of them I left the machine on the ground floor anyway and ran the hose up the middle of the stairwell.

[Adam Eastman]

Adam, you cant compare chems like for like. There's a reason you pay more for certain brands of chems. They work better, faster, protect your machinery etc

Speak to Matt at CleanSmart and go for something like a Airflex Storm, Turbo or the Pro. Basically, get a full sized machine now! I personally couldn't be bothered fannying about with a small extractor. Your going to constantly be emptying and filling... boring and tiring! Much bigger tanks makes a huge difference. And more power makes........?

Think of it as an investment in your business not an expense.  An asset that you can sell if you need to.

I take my Storm up and down 3rd story tenements all day long. Weight is not an issue as long as the machine is empty.
The other benefit of having a more powerful machine is that you'll be able to do 50" to 100" hose runs. So you'll be able to leave your machine outside while you do the whole house. Or leave the machine in the hall way downstairs while doing the rooms upstairs.

If your still determined to get the smaller machine then I personally wouldn't go for the cub! I've heard nothing but bad reviews with the whole design and function of the machines (expect the odd exception). Do you really want all that stress with emptying the machine after every carpet? Sounds like a royal pain in the bum! For a lousy £200 go for the better machine. You can make that back with one job and more. You'll thank me later.

Oh, and if you do go for the cub report back to us after a few weeks and let us know how it worked out for you

Thanks for the feedback, I did mention in one of my earlier posts that I would be adding a bigger machine later on down the line. What I'm looking from this purchase is something that will do the job, but is also light and easy to move around (running up flights of stairs to a 3rd or 4th flat with a 40-50kg machine wouldn't work for me personally).

I'm not sure what you mean with regards to spending the extra £200 for a better machine. Are we then back to the mini? If that's the case, I think the cub is the better one for what I need, it's lighter and has bigger solution tanks, and it's £300 cheaper.

It's going to be a while yet, but when I do, I will be sure to give you my feedback on the machine and if it was the right choice. 

Well if buying twice makes sense to you then go right ahead Adam. Seems like your mind was made up over buying the Cub anyway.

Does it not make sense to have one large main machine for daily use and one smaller machine for jobs where access is an issue or as a back up? I never really saw it as buying twice before, I thought that was the norm set up, but I am a newbie, so apologies if I have got this wrong, it's all a learning curve at the moment.

[Adam Eastman]

I won't go above 1st floor flats w/o a lift unless there is someone there to help me carry everything up and back down.
Did a 2nd floor one the other week, guy was a 25 year old plasterer, he took the Ninja up for me.

Thanks for your advice, but I have to ask, wouldn't a smaller back up machine resolve the issue?

Another question if I may, because I do like the idea of having a machine in a hall way and then running hose up to the flat, but how do you then dispose of the old water? Sorry if that's an obvious daft newbie question, but I have been lead to believe it has to go down a toilet?