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Dave Willis

Re: price of a new van
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2016, 02:31:30 pm »
Oh lord! When will it sink in  ::)roll  Ford, BMW, Suzuki, Toyota and more use French Deisel engines!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9815860/German-cars-lose-out-in-reliability-survey.html

STEVE-UK

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2016, 03:05:52 pm »
Transit custom has just hit 20k and been faultless

But heard horror stories of oil pump failures !


There is  a recall for oil pumps on the Ford Transits

EandM

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2016, 03:33:58 pm »
I wouldn't listen to a couple on here all French diesels m8 stay away if so and so has had no problems they've been lucky,as well as the engines the cabs inside are drab at best.

Well we've only had 10 over the last decade and subsequently only managed a collective 600,000 miles with out any major hassles - so perhaps it's a bit early for us to decide ?

NWH

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2016, 05:35:09 pm »
Oh lord! When will it sink in  ::)roll  Ford, BMW, Suzuki, Toyota and more use French Deisel engines!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9815860/German-cars-lose-out-in-reliability-survey.html
They probably take a bit more time when there building them with those badges on em unlike when it says Citroen or Peugeot,I think they let the tea boys build them lol.

Rogue Trader

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2016, 11:54:53 pm »
I have actually bought 3 pugeot expert 2.0hdi l1h1 vans in last 6 months. Long story but first one was written off. Replaced it the had to get rid of a cleaner who used his own van so ad to buy another one to replace him. Anyway got a solar deal on all 3. All sat Nav, ac and Bluetooth. Pre registered 15 plates at £11500. Paid vat as a deposit £2k ish then 4 years he at about £280 per month. Very good deal imo highly recommend .

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2016, 12:38:15 am »
having had over 80 vans in the last 15 years ive got to say there all as bad as each other and its a case of picking the best of a bad lot

I dream of the days when vans would go for miles and miles with out spending money on them , so thats smiley faced transits and old sprinters ( the one with the gear stick going out the floor ) them were the days

Clever Forum Name

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2016, 08:08:05 am »
Transit custom has just hit 20k and been faultless

But heard horror stories of oil pump failures !


There is  a recall for oil pumps on the Ford Transits

Aye mine isn't one of them :)

AuRavelling79

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2016, 08:11:47 pm »
Everybody else: "The Sky is Blue"

NWH: "No, it's Green!"

My French Diesel story:

We bought a Y reg (2001) Pug 406HDi Estate on 120,000 miles in 2008.

We gave it away in 2012 on 170,000 miles to a mate of my wife (single parent with 4 kids).

She still drives it now. It was on 205,000 in January.

Good old bus.
It's a game of three halves!

NWH

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2016, 11:58:56 pm »
When you actually here the ex salesman of someone like Citroen say don't buy one there trouble you tend to sit up and take notice,when the mechanics say the same would it not put you off slightly. They have more vans in for repair under a couple of years old than other makes just getting a service,you are bound to get a batch that don't get as much trouble it's the same with anything but you have to look at the overall picture that's what a magazine like whatcar do they wait a few years and then give an opinion. 

EandM

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2016, 11:42:20 am »
When you actually here the ex salesman of someone like Citroen say don't buy one there trouble you tend to sit up and take notice,when the mechanics say the same would it not put you off slightly. They have more vans in for repair under a couple of years old than other makes just getting a service,you are bound to get a batch that don't get as much trouble it's the same with anything but you have to look at the overall picture that's what a magazine like whatcar do they wait a few years and then give an opinion.

The problem is NWH that your original post demonizes all French Diesels - (speak to any good experienced mechanic they'll say if it's diesel and French don't buy it.) - The French led the World in making modern diesels refined and acceptable after the ghastly, tractor like stuff of the past. The PSA XUD were the first really refined, mass produced diesels with VW making the first high speed diesels The French, or specifically PSA, were so accomplished in their manufacturing skills that when Ford finally admitted they didn't really have a clue it was PSA they worked with to find a solution - using Ford money and PSA know how.

As to the very modern vehicles that you now mention then the problem most likely comes from all the anti-pollution stuff that's been nailed on by successive legislation which is making ALL diesel engines overly complicated and ultimately unreliable. I've a friend who works for Volvo and he attended a days course on the problems and issues that will be presented by the new environmental  requirements on the new XC and says it's daunting,

Possibly now the only way to run a new van is simply to find a good lease deal and let someone else worry about any likely issues.