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NWH

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2016, 12:57:55 pm »
Most I speak to want a transporter but they are pricey a lot more than other makes,I could have got a brand new vivaro-trafic with new heater and system but I chose not to because I know I'd have had hassle with either down the line somewhere. Do you know what they are worth at the end of a 3-4 year lease,peanuts about 4-5k they will give you tops,a young salesman that shouldn't have really said anything reckoned I'd be lucky to get 4K back for it against another new 1.

Dave Willis

Re: price of a new van
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2016, 07:34:08 pm »
My Son didn't get a lot part exchange when his Transporter blew up at 70k just outside the warranty period - they wanted nine grand to repair it. Utter Garbage.

How my Mrs laughed when her VW convertible locked itself with the engine running whilst she was scraping the windscreen.

How we giggled when the Polo went up in flames when the wiper motor caught fire.

How we enjoyed the dreadful gearbox in our VW UP and mpg nothing like the claimed figures.

How my Sons brand new GTI arrived with a respray  ??? and what a pile of crap that's been for him.

How my camper van dropped a valve or when the solenoid stuck on the starter motor in Sweden  ;D

I think there were more.

Oh yes, the air cooled camper van that had the staff rolling around in stitches at the spares department. "Mate, I used to work for VW - that engine you've got in that was so bad we used to tippex them when they went out and lay bets they wouldn't make their first service!"

Tom-01

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2016, 07:41:50 pm »
My Son didn't get a lot part exchange when his Transporter blew up at 70k just outside the warranty period - they wanted nine grand to repair it. Utter Garbage.

How my Mrs laughed when her VW convertible locked itself with the engine running whilst she was scraping the windscreen.

How we giggled when the Polo went up in flames when the wiper motor caught fire.

How we enjoyed the dreadful gearbox in our VW UP and mpg nothing like the claimed figures.

How my Sons brand new GTI arrived with a respray  ??? and what a pile of crap that's been for him.

How my camper van dropped a valve or when the solenoid stuck on the starter motor in Sweden  ;D

I think there were more.

Why do you keep buying VW's then?!  :o

p1w1

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2016, 07:42:05 pm »
My Son didn't get a lot part exchange when his Transporter blew up at 70k just outside the warranty period - they wanted nine grand to repair it. Utter Garbage.

How my Mrs laughed when her VW convertible locked itself with the engine running whilst she was scraping the windscreen.

How we giggled when the Polo went up in flames when the wiper motor caught fire.

How we enjoyed the dreadful gearbox in our VW UP and mpg nothing like the claimed figures.

How my Sons brand new GTI arrived with a respray  ??? and what a pile of crap that's been for him.

How my camper van dropped a valve or when the solenoid stuck on the starter motor in Sweden  ;D

I think there were more.
i would have given up  with vw after the van blew up .

Perfect Windows

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2016, 07:49:34 pm »
VW's are no better than anything else. A myth of reliability built up through clever advertising.

Here's the truth about VW - below average: http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

Vin

p1w1

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2016, 07:55:11 pm »
VW's are no better than anything else. A myth of reliability built up through clever advertising.

Here's the truth about VW - below average: http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

Vin
do they do one for vans?

Perfect Windows

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Dave Willis

Re: price of a new van
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2016, 08:36:04 pm »
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

That's it then .......... the Bentley's going back first thing Monday morning!

Dave Willis

Re: price of a new van
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2016, 08:42:28 pm »
Plenty of sites http://www.austentrading.co.uk/blog/the-top-10-most-reliable-used-vans-in-the-uk-market/

bit of a surprise to see Ford tops most of them.  :o

duncan h

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2016, 08:52:05 pm »
Why are you thinking of buying one of them I have been warned off of them in the past  by a Citreon mechanic believe it or not,speak to any good experienced mechanic they'll say if it's diesel and French don't buy it.
poop mechanic then.
French always made good oil burners.
Latest ones are spot on. loads of power, reliable and economical
I also used to be a mechanic. Some fantastic and some poop in all makes, but some more than others.
you know its a good engine or chassis because other manufactures use them

dd

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2016, 10:09:54 pm »
Plenty of sites http://www.austentrading.co.uk/blog/the-top-10-most-reliable-used-vans-in-the-uk-market/

bit of a surprise to see Ford tops most of them.  :o
With a vivaro and traffic in the top 10 I would give little credence to that site.

NWH

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2016, 11:03:12 pm »
Someone said to me once the best guide you'll ever have with cars and vans is look at how many are driving about 10-15 years down the line,it's not a rumour its a fact anything French and on 4 wheels is crap.

dazmond

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2016, 07:27:01 pm »
Someone said to me once the best guide you'll ever have with cars and vans is look at how many are driving about 10-15 years down the line,it's not a rumour its a fact anything French and on 4 wheels is crap.

your talking rubbish mate.i had a kangoo van and it was 14 years old when i sold it and its still going!16 years old now.the engine never missed a beat.

i would never buy a VW.overrated,overpriced and unreliable.my mate has had a few and had endless problems.never again would he buy a VW!

i have had loads of fords over the years.older ones too and they ve been great.

i have 2 fords(cougar 2.5 V6 which is 16 years old)and a connect T230(11 years old).a grand for the cougar 4 years ago and £2.400 for the connect 2 years ago.

apart from a few repairs/parts here and there they ve been reliable as usual .very cheap too.
price higher/work harder!

Clever Forum Name

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2016, 07:44:05 pm »
Transit custom has just hit 20k and been faultless

But heard horror stories of oil pump failures !

NBwcs

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2016, 10:05:22 pm »
VW's are no better than anything else. A myth of reliability built up through clever advertising. ( and lies about emisions). My Son crashed his car today and we got chatting to the recovery truck driver - he'd just towed an Audi to the garage - drove over a pothole and the DSG automatic gear box packed up.
We've had several VW's in the family - never had a good one yet, never will either 'cos I'll never buy another.

Both my kids have had vw cars so ive often looked them up for various reasons on the internet and have noticed that the reliability ratings for them on a lot of sites have gone down over the last five years. Id have Jap over German anyday (not that ive got one, but my next car probably will be).

EandM

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2016, 12:15:28 am »
Someone said to me once the best guide you'll ever have with cars and vans is look at how many are driving about 10-15 years down the line,it's not a rumour its a fact anything French and on 4 wheels is crap.


Then on balance that would be French stuff then. There are still an incredibly high number of 406, 306, 206 and assorted vans on the road today from 20 years ago despite the fact they were outsold by Ford many times over - and I'm speaking as a Ford fan. PSA always were very good at making diesels and entered into a joint manufacturing deal with Ford...because they weren't. Some earlier Ford / PSA units are more or less identical whilst others are based on respective units. The joint venture supplied engines to Ford, Peugeot, Citroen, BMW Mini, Land Rover, Range Rover, Jaguar. Ford four cylinder TDCI seem to have more issues than the PSA equivalents of the time until about 2007 when Ford simply started using PSA engines.

dd

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2016, 10:41:42 am »
Someone said to me once the best guide you'll ever have with cars and vans is look at how many are driving about 10-15 years down the line,it's not a rumour its a fact anything French and on 4 wheels is crap.
I owned a Renault 19 1.9D for 10 years (work and family car, bought when 9 months old). Very good motor, only fault was I had to replace radiator.

Only sold Renault to go wfp and brought brad new Citreon dispatch 2.0hdi which I have now owned for 10 years and plan to keep a few more. Better than the renault overall for me.

These are the best two vehicles I have owned but would not buy a new renault or the new dispatch 1.6hdi.

My wife has a citreon c3 picasso 1.6hdi, 5 years old and 65k on clock (owned from new) and so far has been a very decent car.

Dave Willis

Re: price of a new van
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2016, 01:43:47 pm »
Son just got his quote to repair his VW

Guess how much for a track rod end, two new tyres and reset a couple of error messages on the dash?

He slid sideways into the kerb at 20mph.

SeanK

Re: price of a new van
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2016, 02:01:29 pm »
Normally I wouldn't touch a French vehicle as they do tend to be rubbish vehicles ,but I think the Citroen Dispatch is French in name only.
Yes you can get a lemon in all makes but French vehicles do seem to have a bigger share, put it this way I would rather have
my finger nails pulled out than have to put up with owning another Renault.

NWH

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2016, 02:05:37 pm »
I wouldn't listen to a couple on here all French diesels m8 stay away if so and so has had no problems they've been lucky,as well as the engines the cabs inside are drab at best.