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dave the rave

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price of a new van
« on: March 02, 2016, 01:51:17 pm »
Hi Guys Has anyone bought a new citroen dispatch  HDI1 (ENTERPRISE)short wheel base recently and how much did you pay?

NWH

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2016, 02:17:16 pm »
Why are you thinking of buying one of them I have been warned off of them in the past  by a Citreon mechanic believe it or not,speak to any good experienced mechanic they'll say if it's diesel and French don't buy it.

dd

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2016, 02:33:36 pm »
I think the 2.0hdi is OK but would stay well clear of the 1.6hdi.

I have the old shape dispatch 2.0hdi, owned 10 years from new and it has been excellent.

The newer vans are more complicated, probably to meet stricter emission targets and so are more prone to problems - but that is the case whichever new van you buy. This is part of the reason I plan to stick with my old dispatch a few more years.

dd

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2016, 02:37:51 pm »
Why are you thinking of buying one of them I have been warned off of them in the past  by a Citreon mechanic believe it or not,speak to any good experienced mechanic they'll say if it's diesel and French don't buy it.
My mechanic warned me off Vivarro/Traffic/Primastar.

New Ford vans have French diesel engines in them (PSA).

EandM

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2016, 03:21:51 pm »
Why are you thinking of buying one of them I have been warned off of them in the past  by a Citreon mechanic believe it or not,speak to any good experienced mechanic they'll say if it's diesel and French don't buy it.

We've run nothing but PSA Diesels for the last decade and found them (XUD 9 / XUD 11 and DW10i)  to be capable of 200 - 300,000 miles without any major issues. Saying that the 1.6 hdi is a minefield and prone to a number of expensive issues. If the Vans are still using the 2.0 8v hdi in 90 or 100 bhp I'd have no concerns.

NWH

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2016, 03:27:28 pm »
Yeah and the trafic Vivaro etc I didn't mention them coz I thought that was obvious,just get a VW and be done with it.

Tom-01

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2016, 04:26:48 pm »
Yeah and the trafic Vivaro etc I didn't mention them coz I thought that was obvious,just get a VW and be done with it.

Ive got a 55 plate Traffic at the moment, had it for 4.5 years and so far the only issue I've had was a fuel rail release valve and a new slave cylinder put on, a turbo pipe and a new fuel filter. Its actually been a great van. I've got a new Transporter on order and seriously considering keeping my Traffic as well and getting someone else out on the road.. I want to start a thread about the perils of multiple vans and workers but its been done quite a bit recently!  ;D

AuRavelling79

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2016, 04:41:03 pm »
I have had a Hyundai iload 2.5Diesel for 4 years from new with no problems at all. But there shouldn't be really should there?
It's a game of three halves!

dazmond

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2016, 04:59:43 pm »
surely any brand new van should last you a good few years without any  major problems whatever van you buy.
price higher/work harder!

the king

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2016, 05:05:56 pm »
I have had a Hyundai iload 2.5Diesel for 4 years from new with no problems at all. But there shouldn't be really should there?
how meny miles is on ur van now i was looking at these a wile back but ended up geting a vivaro thats bin ok new gear box and a set of pads so far just hit 50k today ;D

Perfect Windows

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2016, 05:22:06 pm »
I have had a Hyundai iload 2.5Diesel for 4 years from new with no problems at all. But there shouldn't be really should there?

That's my choice for next van.  Friend of mine has one and loves it.

Vin

NWH

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2016, 07:45:09 pm »
surely any brand new van should last you a good few years without any  major problems whatever van you buy.
i know someone who gets a new Vivaro every 3 years and has done for years gets an amazing deal he only uses it for light use he's always had gearbox or a clutch go at the least but he just takes em back they give him another while there fixing it. They said once hey changed the engines they wouldn't have any trouble but it's made no difference to the ones he's had and many others.

EandM

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2016, 09:59:04 pm »
surely any brand new van should last you a good few years without any  major problems whatever van you buy.

Basic mechanics are probably ok but the problem seems to be the amount of ant-pollution stuff that's nailed onto the current details - it makes them very complicated and potentially very unreliable.

AuRavelling79

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2016, 10:59:37 pm »
I have had a Hyundai iload 2.5Diesel for 4 years from new with no problems at all. But there shouldn't be really should there?
how meny miles is on ur van now i was looking at these a wile back but ended up geting a vivaro thats bin ok new gear box and a set of pads so far just hit 50k today ;D

Only 21,000. I virtually only use it for work and my round is getting more compact.

It was about £16K in March 2012 but there was a small 3% "business subsidy" (£480) reduction because I bought it at a local dealer and it was sold in my business name not just as a self employed individual.

It has a 5 yr 100,000 warranty so I have a year left. (Not wear and tear items after less time like discs and pads or clutch or aircon recharge 3 years.)

It has just had a set of front pads at 20,500 miles and the backs are reportedly half worn from new. I am on my second set of tyres. Strangely for a rear wheel drive the fronts wear out first. Probably all the 3 point turns I do.

I suspect the clutch will be the first major item to wear out, but no sign yet.

Mpg was about 25 when it was two up plus 650L water at the start of every day, now it is about 30. But I only do about 425 miles a month and carry 400L at the start of the day, down from about 500 miles when I was two up.

I think the back door hinge "stops" are a bit worn as a strong wind will close them but that might just be my imagination. They get a lot of use of course.

You can get a lift up door now which I would consider but couldn't when I got mine.
It's a game of three halves!

Dave Willis

Re: price of a new van
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2016, 11:14:10 pm »
VW's are no better than anything else. A myth of reliability built up through clever advertising. ( and lies about emisions). My Son crashed his car today and we got chatting to the recovery truck driver - he'd just towed an Audi to the garage - drove over a pothole and the DSG automatic gear box packed up.
We've had several VW's in the family - never had a good one yet, never will either 'cos I'll never buy another.

The best diesel engines also tend to be French   :o


NWH

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2016, 11:53:44 pm »
The best Diesel engines tend to be French yeah right oh Dave,had a few cans tonight have you. You'll struggle to beat a transporter mine drives better than most middle of the range cars.

windowswashed

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2016, 02:11:36 am »
VW T5  is good. Plan on converting mine into a day camper and selling on when I buy a new one.

the king

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Re: price of a new van
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2016, 07:12:20 am »
what about the transit or the custom i hear there good

Dave Willis

Re: price of a new van
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2016, 07:41:27 am »
The best Diesel engines tend to be French yeah right oh Dave,had a few cans tonight have you. You'll struggle to beat a transporter mine drives better than most middle of the range cars.

You haven't a clue have you. Even Ford use diesels from the French - BMW too. I don't drink either  ;D 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_HDi_engine