[Tadgh O Shea]

Ask the customer to clear all sills, move furniture away from windows in advance, usually whilst I'm cleaning outside.
No need to take boots off, I have a load of carrier bags in the van, just tie around feet.
Most people just want the glass cleaned inside and as long as they've done all the above, the insides are a doddle, far quicker then outsides. That's if your quick with a squeegee of course.
If you can't squeegee and your using these waffle cloths or whatever then it would take far longer then outside.

Hi Chris, maybe you have never tried but for insides waffle cloths are quicker and more effective than using an applicator and squeegee, also no worries about wiping up spills and splashes. Tadgh

To be fair tadgh iv never tried waffle clothes, I just imagined using them would be similar to 'ragging' a window, which is hard work.

For insides little waffle weave glass cloths really are ideal as you just need to use one damp with water to clean then a quick wipe with a second one used dry to achieve a smear free finish, when you see large companies such as ecloth selling them its only a matter of time before many other suppliers will also start to promote them as well.

[CleanClear]

Ask the customer to clear all sills, move furniture away from windows in advance, usually whilst I'm cleaning outside.
No need to take boots off, I have a load of carrier bags in the van, just tie around feet.
Most people just want the glass cleaned inside and as long as they've done all the above, the insides are a doddle, far quicker then outsides. That's if your quick with a squeegee of course.
If you can't squeegee and your using these waffle cloths or whatever then it would take far longer then outside.

I agree fully with this - If you're quick with a squeegee insides are a doddle and quicker than the outsides. If you're a WFP guy who has never really done trad it's going to take you ages.

Sounds great in theory, in practice its a whole different ball game. Shrouded with a big ....."need to be quick [or good] at trad" . Complete bunkum !!!! 
 I do loads of insides. They ask you to do them because they are minging (usually) .You don't do minging quick, wether its trad, WFP or Little waffle cloth. They're harder, full stop.
 How is anyone doing, say..6inch by 24 inch openers, that are minging with a blade , and quickly i might add ? Answer  = you aint.
 A general rule of thumb for me, and i find i can't go far wrong is small window (glass) , i.e opener, georgian etc.. then its a cloth. Larger one squeegee. Of course if the larger one is really filthy, you got a couple of options.  Shove loads of soap and water on it to clean it and deal with the mop up, or , give it a scrub over with a damp/soggy microfibre or scrim to get the heavy off then blade it. All takes time .

[Mike55]

Ask the customer to clear all sills, move furniture away from windows in advance, usually whilst I'm cleaning outside.
No need to take boots off, I have a load of carrier bags in the van, just tie around feet.
Most people just want the glass cleaned inside and as long as they've done all the above, the insides are a doddle, far quicker then outsides. That's if your quick with a squeegee of course.
If you can't squeegee and your using these waffle cloths or whatever then it would take far longer then outside.

I agree fully with this - If you're quick with a squeegee insides are a doddle and quicker than the outsides. If you're a WFP guy who has never really done trad it's going to take you ages.

Sounds great in theory, in practice its a whole different ball game. Shrouded with a big ....."need to be quick [or good] at trad" . Complete bunkum !!!! 
 I do loads of insides. They ask you to do them because they are minging (usually) .You don't do minging quick, wether its trad, WFP or Little waffle cloth. They're harder, full stop.
 How is anyone doing, say..6inch by 24 inch openers, that are minging with a blade , and quickly i might add ? Answer  = you aint.
 A general rule of thumb for me, and i find i can't go far wrong is small window (glass) , i.e opener, georgian etc.. then its a cloth. Larger one squeegee. Of course if the larger one is really filthy, you got a couple of options.  Shove loads of soap and water on it to clean it and deal with the mop up, or , give it a scrub over with a damp/soggy microfibre or scrim to get the heavy off then blade it. All takes time .

Spot on - that's why I charge double for inside cleans........ take it or leave it............ why spend twice as long cleaning the inside as you would outside without getting paid for it?

[Tadgh O Shea]

Ask the customer to clear all sills, move furniture away from windows in advance, usually whilst I'm cleaning outside.
No need to take boots off, I have a load of carrier bags in the van, just tie around feet.
Most people just want the glass cleaned inside and as long as they've done all the above, the insides are a doddle, far quicker then outsides. That's if your quick with a squeegee of course.
If you can't squeegee and your using these waffle cloths or whatever then it would take far longer then outside.

I agree fully with this - If you're quick with a squeegee insides are a doddle and quicker than the outsides. If you're a WFP guy who has never really done trad it's going to take you ages.

Sounds great in theory, in practice its a whole different ball game. Shrouded with a big ....."need to be quick [or good] at trad" . Complete bunkum !!!! 
 I do loads of insides. They ask you to do them because they are minging (usually) .You don't do minging quick, wether its trad, WFP or Little waffle cloth. They're harder, full stop.
 How is anyone doing, say..6inch by 24 inch openers, that are minging with a blade , and quickly i might add ? Answer  = you aint.
 A general rule of thumb for me, and i find i can't go far wrong is small window (glass) , i.e opener, georgian etc.. then its a cloth. Larger one squeegee. Of course if the larger one is really filthy, you got a couple of options.  Shove loads of soap and water on it to clean it and deal with the mop up, or , give it a scrub over with a damp/soggy microfibre or scrim to get the heavy off then blade it. All takes time .

  Hi CleanClear, i agree with you about sounds great in theory as often the insides can be minging, many householders will use glass and mirror cleaners to try and clean the insides themselves the more they use it the worse they will get as glass and mirror cleaners leave greasy residues build up on the glass which then dries in from the heat in the house, plus of course kids dried in snots, dog tongues,fly and insect spots,etc. i have found using damp magic eraser pads are excellent to deep clean the glass first if needed and then to finish off with cloths, hence another reason to justify charging  much more than for outsides.

[deeege]

Ask the customer to clear all sills, move furniture away from windows in advance, usually whilst I'm cleaning outside.
No need to take boots off, I have a load of carrier bags in the van, just tie around feet.
Most people just want the glass cleaned inside and as long as they've done all the above, the insides are a doddle, far quicker then outsides. That's if your quick with a squeegee of course.
If you can't squeegee and your using these waffle cloths or whatever then it would take far longer then outside.

I agree fully with this - If you're quick with a squeegee insides are a doddle and quicker than the outsides. If you're a WFP guy who has never really done trad it's going to take you ages.

Sounds great in theory, in practice its a whole different ball game. Shrouded with a big ....."need to be quick [or good] at trad" . Complete bunkum !!!! 
 I do loads of insides. They ask you to do them because they are minging (usually) .You don't do minging quick, wether its trad, WFP or Little waffle cloth. They're harder, full stop.
 How is anyone doing, say..6inch by 24 inch openers, that are minging with a blade , and quickly i might add ? Answer  = you aint.
 A general rule of thumb for me, and i find i can't go far wrong is small window (glass) , i.e opener, georgian etc.. then its a cloth. Larger one squeegee. Of course if the larger one is really filthy, you got a couple of options.  Shove loads of soap and water on it to clean it and deal with the mop up, or , give it a scrub over with a damp/soggy microfibre or scrim to get the heavy off then blade it. All takes time .

I carry a small 6 inch squeegee in my pouch for the openers, great little tool and far quicker than using your scrim.

Also, after soaping up the window hold your mop at the bottom of the pain to collect all the water whilst blading the window.

[CleanClear]

Ask the customer to clear all sills, move furniture away from windows in advance, usually whilst I'm cleaning outside.
No need to take boots off, I have a load of carrier bags in the van, just tie around feet.
Most people just want the glass cleaned inside and as long as they've done all the above, the insides are a doddle, far quicker then outsides. That's if your quick with a squeegee of course.
If you can't squeegee and your using these waffle cloths or whatever then it would take far longer then outside.

I agree fully with this - If you're quick with a squeegee insides are a doddle and quicker than the outsides. If you're a WFP guy who has never really done trad it's going to take you ages.

Sounds great in theory, in practice its a whole different ball game. Shrouded with a big ....."need to be quick [or good] at trad" . Complete bunkum !!!! 
 I do loads of insides. They ask you to do them because they are minging (usually) .You don't do minging quick, wether its trad, WFP or Little waffle cloth. They're harder, full stop.
 How is anyone doing, say..6inch by 24 inch openers, that are minging with a blade , and quickly i might add ? Answer  = you aint.
 A general rule of thumb for me, and i find i can't go far wrong is small window (glass) , i.e opener, georgian etc.. then its a cloth. Larger one squeegee. Of course if the larger one is really filthy, you got a couple of options.  Shove loads of soap and water on it to clean it and deal with the mop up, or , give it a scrub over with a damp/soggy microfibre or scrim to get the heavy off then blade it. All takes time .

I carry a small 6 inch squeegee in my pouch for the openers, great little tool and far quicker than using your scrim.

I too have a 6 inch squeegee. And i use it. I don't want to come across as argumentative but how can you say..YOUR 6 inch squeegee is quicker than MY scrim ? I don't use just scrim. I use all the methods available. Of course i do use scrim, and micro fibres, and waffle cloths, and a blade. Of course what you are saying actually is that a blade is best. Its not always.

Remember i said ..............generally a blade is quicker, easier and better for larger areas of glass.

I've said this before and i'll say it again...............i clean a conservatory, monthly. Its a care home. Its a smoking conservatory. Its minging every time i go. I'm often late, so it gets done 6 weekly or longer !!!    You aint doin no openers with a blade. I've done the job years............i know for a FACT. I've tried every method. On this and lots more jobs i do regular and get to see the results afterwards. I can blitz it real quick with a blade, bent down corners so i don't need to detail, just a cloth to mop up as i go. I can look real "fast" and proffesional. Until you look at the results after wards.

And if anyones found a one pass method to remove nicotine, scum and general dirt from a window, with a blade, without having to leave a torrent of run off and deal with it, quickly.................i'm all ears?

[Tadgh O Shea]

Hi CleanClear, would agree again no contest with 6 inch squeegee on openers for example micro cloths would be much quicker and more effective, just out of curiosity have you ever used magic eraser pads dampened just with water for deep cleaning glass they are so quick and really not very messy, also excellent for quick removal of  nicotine scum.

[deeege]

Ask the customer to clear all sills, move furniture away from windows in advance, usually whilst I'm cleaning outside.
No need to take boots off, I have a load of carrier bags in the van, just tie around feet.
Most people just want the glass cleaned inside and as long as they've done all the above, the insides are a doddle, far quicker then outsides. That's if your quick with a squeegee of course.
If you can't squeegee and your using these waffle cloths or whatever then it would take far longer then outside.

I agree fully with this - If you're quick with a squeegee insides are a doddle and quicker than the outsides. If you're a WFP guy who has never really done trad it's going to take you ages.

Sounds great in theory, in practice its a whole different ball game. Shrouded with a big ....."need to be quick [or good] at trad" . Complete bunkum !!!! 
 I do loads of insides. They ask you to do them because they are minging (usually) .You don't do minging quick, wether its trad, WFP or Little waffle cloth. They're harder, full stop.
 How is anyone doing, say..6inch by 24 inch openers, that are minging with a blade , and quickly i might add ? Answer  = you aint.
 A general rule of thumb for me, and i find i can't go far wrong is small window (glass) , i.e opener, georgian etc.. then its a cloth. Larger one squeegee. Of course if the larger one is really filthy, you got a couple of options.  Shove loads of soap and water on it to clean it and deal with the mop up, or , give it a scrub over with a damp/soggy microfibre or scrim to get the heavy off then blade it. All takes time .

I carry a small 6 inch squeegee in my pouch for the openers, great little tool and far quicker than using your scrim.

I too have a 6 inch squeegee. And i use it. I don't want to come across as argumentative but how can you say..YOUR 6 inch squeegee is quicker than MY scrim ? I don't use just scrim. I use all the methods available. Of course i do use scrim, and micro fibres, and waffle cloths, and a blade. Of course what you are saying actually is that a blade is best. Its not always.

Remember i said ..............generally a blade is quicker, easier and better for larger areas of glass.

I've said this before and i'll say it again...............i clean a conservatory, monthly. Its a care home. Its a smoking conservatory. Its minging every time i go. I'm often late, so it gets done 6 weekly or longer !!!    You aint doin no openers with a blade. I've done the job years............i know for a FACT. I've tried every method. On this and lots more jobs i do regular and get to see the results afterwards. I can blitz it real quick with a blade, bent down corners so i don't need to detail, just a cloth to mop up as i go. I can look real "fast" and proffesional. Until you look at the results after wards.

And if anyones found a one pass method to remove nicotine, scum and general dirt from a window, with a blade, without having to leave a torrent of run off and deal with it, quickly.................i'm all ears?

The bolded. I didn't mean to be argumentative by writing YOUR scrim. I just meant A scrim. I just wrote the sentence incorrectly.

For internal cleaning I carry a mop (fairy liquid), blade, scraper, scrim and microfibres. All this talk about waffle cloths and spray bottles etc baffles me if I'm being honest. The above 4 items are all that will be needed in 99.9999% of situations.

[Tadgh O Shea]

deeege, for years i would of used the four items you mentioned above also for internals, but things do change microfiber technology has moved on, i know i harp on about little waffle weave glass cloths but they really are a game changer especially for internals and really do speed up the process of cleaning them, i would recommend anyone to try them i have shared they can be got on ecloth.com. again magic eraser pads dampened just with water are just incredible for deep cleaning glass and are widely available from many suppliers. Tadgh

[CleanClear]

All this talk about waffle cloths and spray bottles etc baffles me if I'm being honest. The above 4 items are all that will be needed in 99.9999% of situations.

Ah ok mate, i got ya now .

[CleanClear]

deeege, for years i would of used the four items you mentioned above

Tadgh, i want you to be honest with me. When did you clean windows,and where ? And how long did you do it ? I wouldn't ordinarily ask that, but its just you said you'd done it.............

[deeege]

deeege, for years i would of used the four items you mentioned above

Tadgh, i want you to be honest with me. When did you clean windows,and where ? And how long did you do it ? I wouldn't ordinarily ask that, but its just you said you'd done it.............

I've also asked him the same question a few times now. He seems to disappear at this point.

[CleanClear]

deeege, for years i would of used the four items you mentioned above

Tadgh, i want you to be honest with me. When did you clean windows,and where ? And how long did you do it ? I wouldn't ordinarily ask that, but its just you said you'd done it.............

I've also asked him the same question a few times now. He seems to disappear at this point.

Thats me just text ya !!

[Tadgh O Shea]

deeege, for years i would of used the four items you mentioned above

Tadgh, i want you to be honest with me. When did you clean windows,and where ? And how long did you do it ? I wouldn't ordinarily ask that, but its just you said you'd done it.............

Hi CleanClear, i started cleaning windows in 1982 and over the following years also expanded into pressure washing, sign cleaning, carpet and upholstery cleaning,hard floor cleaning, and general contract cleaning, so been on the tools for over 30 years, got into supplying cleaning products in 2007 as i got fed up
 not being able to source products that i was happy with using, have no problem in admitting that i am no longer a shiner as things have moved on for me, but on a daily basis i am on the road developing business for Jsk this entails showing people newer and more effective ways on how to clean all types of surfaces such as glass,mirrors,stainless steel,pvc/upvc,hard floors,carpets,upholstery,leather,kitchens,bathrooms, and i could go on. So 34 years later and  would be the first to put my hand up that i am still learning everyday but always happy to share my knowledge and experience, hope that answer will also do for deeege.  Tadgh

[CleanClear]

deeege, for years i would of used the four items you mentioned above

Tadgh, i want you to be honest with me. When did you clean windows,and where ? And how long did you do it ? I wouldn't ordinarily ask that, but its just you said you'd done it.............

Hi CleanClear, i started cleaning windows in 1982 and over the following years also expanded into pressure washing, sign cleaning, carpet and upholstery cleaning,hard floor cleaning, and general contract cleaning, so been on the tools for over 30 years, got into supplying cleaning products in 2007 as i got fed up
 not being able to source products that i was happy with using, have no problem in admitting that i am no longer a shiner as things have moved on for me, but on a daily basis i am on the road developing business for Jsk this entails showing people newer and more effective ways on how to clean all types of surfaces such as glass,mirrors,stainless steel,pvc/upvc,hard floors,carpets,upholstery,leather,kitchens,bathrooms, and i could go on. So 34 years later and still would be the first to put my hand up that i am still learning everyday but always happy to share my knowledge and experience, hope that answer will also do for deeege.  Tadgh

Tadgh, i didn't ask you any of that. But if you'd tell us something about who you traded as when you cleaned carpets,upholstery and contract cleaning that may help me to understand better who you are. However, like i say i never asked you that. I just asked when did you start cleaning windows, how long you done it and where you done it. I used to live in Ireland you see, and my relatives still do. I just thought i may have found a "connection" .

 Of course its not a prerequsite for anyone to have cleaned windows in order for them to say how a product, or fashion can clean a window and i'd never hold anyone up to that fact, i just take them on what they say. But you said you done it, you'll either elaborate or you won't................

[Tadgh O Shea]

deeege, for years i would of used the four items you mentioned above

Tadgh, i want you to be honest with me. When did you clean windows,and where ? And how long did you do it ? I wouldn't ordinarily ask that, but its just you said you'd done it.............

Hi CleanClear, i started cleaning windows in 1982 and over the following years also expanded into pressure washing, sign cleaning, carpet and upholstery cleaning,hard floor cleaning, and general contract cleaning, so been on the tools for over 30 years, got into supplying cleaning products in 2007 as i got fed up
 not being able to source products that i was happy with using, have no problem in admitting that i am no longer a shiner as things have moved on for me, but on a daily basis i am on the road developing business for Jsk this entails showing people newer and more effective ways on how to clean all types of surfaces such as glass,mirrors,stainless steel,pvc/upvc,hard floors,carpets,upholstery,leather,kitchens,bathrooms, and i could go on. So 34 years later and still would be the first to put my hand up that i am still learning everyday but always happy to share my knowledge and experience, hope that answer will also do for deeege.  Tadgh

Tadgh, i didn't ask you any of that. But if you'd tell us something about who you traded as when you cleaned carpets,upholstery and contract cleaning that may help me to understand better who you are. However, like i say i never asked you that. I just asked when did you start cleaning windows, how long you done it and where you done it. I used to live in Ireland you see, and my relatives still do. I just thought i may have found a "connection" .

 Of course its not a prerequsite for anyone to have cleaned windows in order for them to say how a product, or fashion can clean a window and i'd never hold anyone up to that fact, i just take them on what they say. But you said you done it, you'll either elaborate or you won't................

Hi CleanClear, no prob my cleaning business was called Impression cleaning services which i operated for many years in Cork City and County, if you have any relations in Cork let me know and we can see if we have crossed paths with them, many of the clients i used to clean for over the years i still  keep in contact with as they now use our cleaning solutions for use in their own homes. If i may say my favorite surfaces when showing people how to clean more efficiently would be glass,mirrors,stainless steel, hard floors, as we have developed more effective methods than the industry standards when it comes to cleaning these type surfaces. Tadgh

[CleanClear]

deeege, for years i would of used the four items you mentioned above

Tadgh, i want you to be honest with me. When did you clean windows,and where ? And how long did you do it ? I wouldn't ordinarily ask that, but its just you said you'd done it.............

Hi CleanClear, i started cleaning windows in 1982 and over the following years also expanded into pressure washing, sign cleaning, carpet and upholstery cleaning,hard floor cleaning, and general contract cleaning, so been on the tools for over 30 years, got into supplying cleaning products in 2007 as i got fed up
 not being able to source products that i was happy with using, have no problem in admitting that i am no longer a shiner as things have moved on for me, but on a daily basis i am on the road developing business for Jsk this entails showing people newer and more effective ways on how to clean all types of surfaces such as glass,mirrors,stainless steel,pvc/upvc,hard floors,carpets,upholstery,leather,kitchens,bathrooms, and i could go on. So 34 years later and still would be the first to put my hand up that i am still learning everyday but always happy to share my knowledge and experience, hope that answer will also do for deeege.  Tadgh

Tadgh, i didn't ask you any of that. But if you'd tell us something about who you traded as when you cleaned carpets,upholstery and contract cleaning that may help me to understand better who you are. However, like i say i never asked you that. I just asked when did you start cleaning windows, how long you done it and where you done it. I used to live in Ireland you see, and my relatives still do. I just thought i may have found a "connection" .

 Of course its not a prerequsite for anyone to have cleaned windows in order for them to say how a product, or fashion can clean a window and i'd never hold anyone up to that fact, i just take them on what they say. But you said you done it, you'll either elaborate or you won't................

Hi CleanClear, no prob my cleaning business was called Impression cleaning services which i operated for many years in Cork City and County, if you have any relations in Cork let me know and we can see if we have crossed paths with them, many of the clients i used to clean for over the years i still  keep in contact with as they now use our cleaning solutions for use in their own homes. If i may say my favorite surfaces when showing people how to clean more efficiently would be glass,mirrors,stainless steel, hard floors, as we have developed more effective methods than the industry standards when it comes to cleaning these type surfaces. Tadgh

Thats great thanks Tadgh, this is the window cleaning section. I'm sure we'll get a connection.

[Tadgh O Shea]

deeege, for years i would of used the four items you mentioned above

Tadgh, i want you to be honest with me. When did you clean windows,and where ? And how long did you do it ? I wouldn't ordinarily ask that, but its just you said you'd done it.............

Hi CleanClear, i started cleaning windows in 1982 and over the following years also expanded into pressure washing, sign cleaning, carpet and upholstery cleaning,hard floor cleaning, and general contract cleaning, so been on the tools for over 30 years, got into supplying cleaning products in 2007 as i got fed up
 not being able to source products that i was happy with using, have no problem in admitting that i am no longer a shiner as things have moved on for me, but on a daily basis i am on the road developing business for Jsk this entails showing people newer and more effective ways on how to clean all types of surfaces such as glass,mirrors,stainless steel,pvc/upvc,hard floors,carpets,upholstery,leather,kitchens,bathrooms, and i could go on. So 34 years later and still would be the first to put my hand up that i am still learning everyday but always happy to share my knowledge and experience, hope that answer will also do for deeege.  Tadgh

Tadgh, i didn't ask you any of that. But if you'd tell us something about who you traded as when you cleaned carpets,upholstery and contract cleaning that may help me to understand better who you are. However, like i say i never asked you that. I just asked when did you start cleaning windows, how long you done it and where you done it. I used to live in Ireland you see, and my relatives still do. I just thought i may have found a "connection" .

 Of course its not a prerequsite for anyone to have cleaned windows in order for them to say how a product, or fashion can clean a window and i'd never hold anyone up to that fact, i just take them on what they say. But you said you done it, you'll either elaborate or you won't................

Hi CleanClear, no prob my cleaning business was called Impression cleaning services which i operated for many years in Cork City and County, if you have any relations in Cork let me know and we can see if we have crossed paths with them, many of the clients i used to clean for over the years i still  keep in contact with as they now use our cleaning solutions for use in their own homes. If i may say my favorite surfaces when showing people how to clean more efficiently would be glass,mirrors,stainless steel, hard floors, as we have developed more effective methods than the industry standards when it comes to cleaning these type surfaces. Tadgh

Thats great thanks Tadgh, this is the window cleaning section. I'm sure we'll get a connection.

Hi CleanClear, if you like give me a call on 00353 87 9406650 anytime to see if we can connect on any mutual contacts or ideas. regards Tadgh

[Oliver James]

I do the insides, and will continue to the inside; but only  for customers who have been with us for many years.

For newer customers when they ask I now say: 'I'd love to help you out, but we specialise in water fed pole and we're just not set up for internal work and  the staff aren't trained for it. What we can do is provide you with some microfibre cloths free of charge and we'll give you the name of our supplier if you want to buy a professional quality squeegee....

[Tadgh O Shea]

deeege, for years i would of used the four items you mentioned above

Tadgh, i want you to be honest with me. When did you clean windows,and where ? And how long did you do it ? I wouldn't ordinarily ask that, but its just you said you'd done it.............

I've also asked him the same question a few times now. He seems to disappear at this point.

Hi deeege,  this same question above you have asked me a few times are you really sure about that as i am not one to shy away from questions usually, just thought i would ask you as i can't  remember you ever asking me a question. Tadgh