[sunshine windows]

Hi Mick, didn't really want to get into figures but just gauge which type of work you prefer because of earning potential. Are you based near London, because if you are, I'd expect you to do better domestic days than your quoted figures on your commercial days.

[Dave Willis]

By strange coincidence I've just had an email from one of my best priced commercials wanting me to confirm price and frequency as it's that time of year they check their budget - probably lose that one.

[Mick Kent]

Hi Mick, didn't really want to get into figures but just gauge which type of work you prefer because of earning potential. Are you based near London, because if you are, I'd expect you to do better domestic days than your quoted figures on your commercial days.

No prob.. I deleted it, didnt want to come accross like a Vinny or a Pryor look at me type.

[NWH]

I used to realy love Domestic untill i got a taste of commercial and now i hate domestic and only target commercial work as you cant realy beat it.

Today started with a 2 weekly nursery in the morning  at 6.30am which was £50 which took 15mins, a monthly office at £90 then a junior School for £300 which took 2 of us just over 2 hours then a secondary school at £700 which took untill 4.30 as caretaker went home and will spend a few hours finishing off the insides tomorrow.
So £1050  for a commercial days take between 2 guys working 10 hours.  You cant get that on domestic.

Tommorow im doing retail which adds upto £230, first job at 6.30 and an office 3 story building which is £120 and finishing off school but priced for that today. So £350 for a days take for 1 guy(me) doing 10 hours from start to finish. again hard to get on domestic.

Friday im in Southampton so leaving at 5.30 doing a student accommodation building thats £160 then a Menzies office at £120 followed by a big industrial unit at £180 so £460 for 1 guy although will prob be a late 1 home, still Cant get that on domestic.

Weekend 3 of us doing a big clean in london that totals £1500 for 2 long days.

I didnt earn anywhere near what i do no when i was doing domestic. Its easy twice as much earning potential with the right commercial work. Only downside is i travel all over the place and work long days, however i enjoy it so i accept the traveling and late finishes.

Thats a hell of a statement saying it can't  be done on domestics Mick,do you know that for a fact. If you have 1 job for 100 is it not possible to have a book full of em then.

[8weekly]

Hi Mick, didn't really want to get into figures but just gauge which type of work you prefer because of earning potential. Are you based near London, because if you are, I'd expect you to do better domestic days than your quoted figures on your commercial days.

No prob.. I deleted it, didnt want to come accross like a Vinny or a Pryor look at me type.

When are you next going to post pictures of your car? 

[8weekly]

I used to realy love Domestic untill i got a taste of commercial and now i hate domestic and only target commercial work as you cant realy beat it.

Today started with a 2 weekly nursery in the morning  at 6.30am which was £50 which took 15mins, a monthly office at £90 then a junior School for £300 which took 2 of us just over 2 hours then a secondary school at £700 which took untill 4.30 as caretaker went home and will spend a few hours finishing off the insides tomorrow.
So £1050  for a commercial days take between 2 guys working 10 hours.  You cant get that on domestic.

Tommorow im doing retail which adds upto £230, first job at 6.30 and an office 3 story building which is £120 and finishing off school but priced for that today. So £350 for a days take for 1 guy(me) doing 10 hours from start to finish. again hard to get on domestic.

Friday im in Southampton so leaving at 5.30 doing a student accommodation building thats £160 then a Menzies office at £120 followed by a big industrial unit at £180 so £460 for 1 guy although will prob be a late 1 home, still Cant get that on domestic.

Weekend 3 of us doing a big clean in london that totals £1500 for 2 long days.

I didnt earn anywhere near what i do no when i was doing domestic. Its easy twice as much earning potential with the right commercial work. Only downside is i travel all over the place and work long days, however i enjoy it so i accept the traveling and late finishes.

Thats a hell of a statement saying it can't  be done on domestics Mick,do you know that for a fact. If you have 1 job for 100 is it not possible to have a book full of em then.

Oh yes you can get that. One man on a 6 hour day is easily £400. 

[Mick Kent]

I used to realy love Domestic untill i got a taste of commercial and now i hate domestic and only target commercial work as you cant realy beat it.

Today started with a 2 weekly nursery in the morning  at 6.30am which was £50 which took 15mins, a monthly office at £90 then a junior School for £300 which took 2 of us just over 2 hours then a secondary school at £700 which took untill 4.30 as caretaker went home and will spend a few hours finishing off the insides tomorrow.
So £1050  for a commercial days take between 2 guys working 10 hours.  You cant get that on domestic.

Tommorow im doing retail which adds upto £230, first job at 6.30 and an office 3 story building which is £120 and finishing off school but priced for that today. So £350 for a days take for 1 guy(me) doing 10 hours from start to finish. again hard to get on domestic.

Friday im in Southampton so leaving at 5.30 doing a student accommodation building thats £160 then a Menzies office at £120 followed by a big industrial unit at £180 so £460 for 1 guy although will prob be a late 1 home, still Cant get that on domestic.

Weekend 3 of us doing a big clean in london that totals £1500 for 2 long days.

I didnt earn anywhere near what i do no when i was doing domestic. Its easy twice as much earning potential with the right commercial work. Only downside is i travel all over the place and work long days, however i enjoy it so i accept the traveling and late finishes.

Thats a hell of a statement saying it can't  be done on domestics Mick,do you know that for a fact. If you have 1 job for 100 is it not possible to have a book full of em then.

It cant be done daily day in day out is what i meant.. Weather playing a big part of the problem.

If you can do it then fair play, i couldnt.

[Mick Kent]

Hi Mick, didn't really want to get into figures but just gauge which type of work you prefer because of earning potential. Are you based near London, because if you are, I'd expect you to do better domestic days than your quoted figures on your commercial days.

No prob.. I deleted it, didnt want to come accross like a Vinny or a Pryor look at me type.

When are you next going to post pictures of your car? 

That was on a show your car thread!

[Mick Kent]

I had some great domestic days, all my work was rows of £10 fronts.. I just prefere commercial and find it more profitable in the long run. I still have cream domestic work but even that isnt as good as a lot of my com work.
Only my view from myself on the subject.

[sunshine windows]

No prob.. I deleted it, didnt want to come accross like a Vinny or a Pryor look at me type.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest Mick.

Where do you try to pitch yourself when quoting a commercial job then? Hoping to get somewhere between £50-60 per hour?

Surely a big run of fronts at £10 a pop you could be hitting in excess of that easily

[Matt.]

It depends on the job really, I can't compare to domestics as don't do any.

I have some commercial work that's day to day work that's not the best priced but I have others work that's priced a lot higher commercial is a lot more competitive IMO

One of jobs are by far the highest paying

I know a few lads that do really well on domestics tho, even on terraced house at £5 fronts, some of these lads are running 100 plus houses a day on 2 weekly rotas so nothing at all to turn your nose up at.

[supernova77]

I view commercial as a bonus - I don't go chasing it, but I'll quote if I'm asked to.

You can't beat a well priced domestic business... Regular, repeat work.

Andy 

[supernova77]

I used to realy love Domestic untill i got a taste of commercial and now i hate domestic and only target commercial work as you cant realy beat it.

Today started with a 2 weekly nursery in the morning  at 6.30am which was £50 which took 15mins, a monthly office at £90 then a junior School for £300 which took 2 of us just over 2 hours then a secondary school at £700 which took untill 4.30 as caretaker went home and will spend a few hours finishing off the insides tomorrow.
So £1050  for a commercial days take between 2 guys working 10 hours.  You cant get that on domestic.

Tommorow im doing retail which adds upto £230, first job at 6.30 and an office 3 story building which is £120 and finishing off school but priced for that today. So £350 for a days take for 1 guy(me) doing 10 hours from start to finish. again hard to get on domestic.

Friday im in Southampton so leaving at 5.30 doing a student accommodation building thats £160 then a Menzies office at £120 followed by a big industrial unit at £180 so £460 for 1 guy although will prob be a late 1 home, still Cant get that on domestic.

Weekend 3 of us doing a big clean in london that totals £1500 for 2 long days.

I didnt earn anywhere near what i do no when i was doing domestic. Its easy twice as much earning potential with the right commercial work. Only downside is i travel all over the place and work long days, however i enjoy it so i accept the traveling and late finishes.

£350 for 10 hours isn't that great to be honest...

And £1500 for 6 mans days over a weekend isn't very good at all?

Andy

[sunshine windows]

350 for 10 hours isn't that great to be honest...

And £1500 for 6 mans days over a weekend isn't very good at all?

Never mind the earnings per hour. There's no way I'd want to be working 10 hour days or working weekends for any amount of ££££

[NWH]

No you can't work on them domestics when it's pouring with rain no I accept that.

[dazmond]

No you can't work on them domestics when it's pouring with rain no I accept that.

yes you can!i cleaned 12 houses in the pouring rain today!and nearly all customers paid me there and then plus 2 brews made for me.

[Smudger]

we do both, but heavily weighted in favour of domestic Windows, I've always priced commercial cleans at the same price as domestic then added 50% - double if 1 off  or yearly clean.

Commercial ranges from 3 year contract ( hospital ) right down to local hair dressers - the larger stuff is great in respect it's a big lump in at one go.

I set a rate which as a biz we need to hit regardless of what the windows are, and the guys thankfully always exceed that rate.

I am most surprised at your posts Mick

Darran

[Mick Kent]

Hi Darren.

How do you mean
What has surprised you?

[cgh window cleaning]

cleaning glass be it domestic or commercial it dosen't matter as long as you get a price your happy with.

Going of Mick Kents post over the next 5 days he would have done £3360 minus paying his lad s(which are workers and not partners) so in my books his on a fair amount and Mick does this type of work week in week out.

Are most domestic only small business i.e sole traders + part timers doing 100k a year ?
If you are fair play and I'm not saying it's not  impossible but I don't know many domestic shiners doing 2.5 k a week ,week in week out.

[Smudger]

That your domestic work was far less than your quoted commercial stuff, taking into account the long days and the travelling does it really work out better ?

Darran