[sunshine windows]

To those that have a mixture of both, do you earn more per hour on your commercial work and if not why not?  It's harder graft after all.

I've recently been getting quite a few commercial quotes and have priced them in line with what I would earn on good domestic runs. Needless to say I don't get accepted very often.

Is there a lot of competition in the commercial sector and has this affected the pricing. 

Just thinking out loud while it's chucking it down 

[deeege]

I'm 80/20 commercial /domestic.

Earn more on my commercial, probably around 60% more per hour. This is heavily weighted by one big contract though, take that out of the equation and it'd be more but only by around 20%.

The main benefit of having more commercial work, for me anyway, is having work that needs to be done before 8am (in and early riser) and also having work that can be dropped on whatever the weather.

[sunshine windows]

Wow, that's a big difference in favour of commercial deeege!

Did you set out to target commercial with a view that you could charge more?

[Dave Willis]

I earn double to triple my normal hourly rate on commercial. Its easier, faster and more open. Give me a block of flats or offices anyday rather than a dog poope infested back garden.

[jonboywalton75]

I'm 70/30 in favour of residential
I have about 12 or 13 regular  commercials,  some big some small.
I reckon my commercial  earns me 30 or 40% more
Prices  have been squeezed on commercial but I just won't  drop below  a certain  level of pricing,  I'd  rather  knock  work back than work for what some  of the nationals  are  charging
I'm a sole trader,  who subcontracts now and again

[NWH]

Commercial is cut throat 1 day you turn up and it's happy days next thing you open your emails and someone has told them they'll do it for peanuts,slow and steady wins the race so I would say some and some but I just think about commercial as being a bonus not bread and butter.

[8weekly]

I reckon those earning way more on commercial need to up their domestic prices.

[jonboywalton75]

Commercial is cut throat 1 day you turn up and it's happy days next thing you open your emails and someone has told them they'll do it for peanuts,slow and steady wins the race so I would say some and some but I just think about commercial as being a bonus not bread and butter.

Totally  agree

[jonboywalton75]

I reckon those earning way more on commercial need to up their domestic prices.

Everthing  is relative
I price any job based on what I want to earn per hour
If I don't  like it,  let don't do it

[Smurf]

The larger type commercial/residential jobs can be very lucrative. It’s just a case of picking the ones that are most profitable and getting shot of ones that are not.

[cgh window cleaning]

I am 70/30% commercial- domestic.
I earn more on commercial  and to be honest I just prefer commercial window cleaning more.
I would much rather be doing one or two big  jobs a day than loads of little ones.

Don't be fooled while most of the time commercial will pay more there are a lot of people out there doing jobs for next to nothing just to keep the job or say they do a bit of commercial.

[deeege]

I reckon those earning way more on commercial need to up their domestic prices.

Certainly not in my case. I'm the most expensive in my area (that I know of), very rarely am i not the most expensive.

Difference is that all domestic customers have neighbours and know what is the going rate.

Commercial accounts are usually stand alone jobs and have no idea what the going rate is and are generally happier to pay more for a quality service.

[8weekly]

I reckon those earning way more on commercial need to up their domestic prices.

Certainly not in my case. I'm the most expensive in my area (that I know of), very rarely am i not the most expensive.

Difference is that all domestic customers have neighbours and know what is the going rate.

Commercial accounts are usually stand alone jobs and have no idea what the going rate is and are generally happier to pay more for a quality service.

My neighbours don't talk to me.

[sunshine windows]

My domestic jobs on the whole are very well paid, which I think is part of the problem with me not gaining a lot of commercial.

[Shane sharples]

Iv stopped worrying about how much the neighbours know about other windys prices, my customers choose me ( one of the most expensive I know of) because I do a good job . The £5 & £7.50 they used to pay the chavs has now become £10 & £15 for me to do it and they're delighted with the job I do 

[sunshine windows]

Here's me saying I rarely get commercial and I've just had one accepted from a quote yesterday. 

[Perfect Windows]

Over 99% domestic.  Very hard to get our domestic hourly rate on commercial work - bit for some flats once and the competitor was 25% of our bid.  Not 25% lower, 25% of our price.  Madness.

Vin

[sunshine windows]

Over 99% domestic.  Very hard to get our domestic hourly rate on commercial work - bit for some flats once and the competitor was 25% of our bid.  Not 25% lower, 25% of our price.  Madness.

I never chase commercial for this very reason. I normally  get told we're too expensive. If it falls in my lap though I'll take it.

I think you'd struggle to hit the hourly rate on small commercials that you can achieve on high paid domestic jobs. Larger commercial jobs is a different matter though.

[Clever Forum Name]

I had a good run with commercial last year but they literally drop you to save a tenner.

I lost a chain of car show rooms, massive offices, storage buildings, shops and even a few public houses (high end)

One job was £285 a month. I had to beat £140.

It took me 5 hours to clean, the new company gets it done is 2 hours. One man. The windows look dreadful.

However i did get a job from a national. £90 for 2 hours. So made me

[sunshine windows]

The one I just picked up used to be cleaned by a national. No idea what happened to them, but will be interested to find out next week when I clean it.

Another reason why I don't target commercial, all your eggs in one basket so to speak.