[NWH]

Is it 22ft 800g 25ft 950g am I missing something does this make it lighter than the extremes.

[dazmond]

i dont care!you wont beat an XTREME  mk3 pole(25 ft) for strength,rigidity and a pure joy to use day in/day out.its very light but very strong too.not an easy thing to achieve. .

facelift poles are just not in the same league as gardiner poles for sure.

[ChumBucket]

Unless they've made a new version WCW and Foxy Roxy had to pull the Neon poles from sale due to blatant Patent infringement on Gardiner Xtreme poles- in layman's terms WCW just copied the gardiner Xtreme poles! Foxy reckoned the Neons were based on other technologies but soon whipped them off the shelves!!  

[NWH]

Are they available then I had a carbon facelift 25ft for years and I have to say for strength it was the best I've owned,in all the time I had it the whole clamp section of the pole never needed attention.

[NWH]

It says pre order now and they must be right on the weight side cos they are asking 500 for the shortest one,high modulas Carbon it says.

[the king]

i dont care!you wont beat an XTREME  mk3 pole(25 ft) for strength,rigidity and a pure joy to use day in/day out.its very light but very strong too.not an easy thing to achieve. .

facelift poles are just not in the same league as gardiner poles for sure.

  do u think the new extreme poles r a lot stronger than the ones with metel clamping points then

[jonboywalton75]

i dont care!you wont beat an XTREME  mk3 pole(25 ft) for strength,rigidity and a pure joy to use day in/day out.its very light but very strong too.not an easy thing to achieve. .

facelift poles are just not in the same league as gardiner poles for sure.

Extremes are NOT  very strong!!!!!!

[NWH]

I have snapped 2 sections on mine

[ChumBucket]

Are they available then I had a carbon facelift 25ft for years and I have to say for strength it was the best I've owned,in all the time I had it the whole clamp section of the pole never needed attention.

I also had the same pole, however they were made by Facelift before WCW bought them out. Facelift products are now WCW products. I agree, the old Facelift carbon poles were very hard wearing but twice the weight of current offerings and MUCH less rigid.

[NWH]

Are you saying this new pole is as light as an extreme then,have you seen this new pole chum.

[ChumBucket]

Are you saying this new pole is as light as an extreme then,have you seen this new pole chum.

Depends whether the Neon you refer to is a new re-worked version or the original that they had to stop selling? They basically ripped Gardiner Xtreme poles design off. Do you have a link?

[NWH]

I just googled neon carbon pole and it came up on WCW site saying it's available from January this year,starts at 500 I would be prepared to give one a go if it's as light as they say.

[dazmond]

i dont care!you wont beat an XTREME  mk3 pole(25 ft) for strength,rigidity and a pure joy to use day in/day out.its very light but very strong too.not an easy thing to achieve. .

facelift poles are just not in the same league as gardiner poles for sure.

Extremes are NOT  very strong!!!!!!

Jon boy the new xtremes are a lot stronger mate.i have the newest version and it's a fraction lighter too!

[NWH]

I'm about to buy a spare pole but I don't think the facelift fits the Gardiner carbon goosenecks so that would sway me to buy the extreme.

[ChumBucket]

I just googled neon carbon pole and it came up on WCW site saying it's available from January this year,starts at 500 I would be prepared to give one a go if it's as light as they say.

January last year NWH.

[NWH]

Was it oh right sorry I can remember the pole being pulled from being sold I thought it was a new one as I've just got something from WCW and looked in the brochure.

[Stephen Fox]

Is it 22ft 800g 25ft 950g am I missing something does this make it lighter than the extremes.

NWH yes NeoN Mk2 is lighter than any other pole available.

[Stephen Fox]

Unless they've made a new version WCW and Foxy Roxy had to pull the Neon poles from sale due to blatant Patent infringement on Gardiner Xtreme poles- in layman's terms WCW just copied the gardiner Xtreme poles! Foxy reckoned the Neons were based on other technologies but soon whipped them off the shelves!!

Chum, yes this is a new version (mk2) and lighter than xtreme or any other pole available for that matter. Good to see you are still trolling, well done. Keep up the good work.

[Stephen Fox]

i dont care!you wont beat an XTREME  mk3 pole(25 ft) for strength,rigidity and a pure joy to use day in/day out.its very light but very strong too.not an easy thing to achieve. .

facelift poles are just not in the same league as gardiner poles for sure.

Dazmond, in your opinion... and you haven't used anything else so that opinion is in question!

[JackieW]

i dont care!you wont beat an XTREME  mk3 pole(25 ft) for strength,rigidity and a pure joy to use day in/day out.its very light but very strong too.not an easy thing to achieve. .

facelift poles are just not in the same league as gardiner poles for sure.

With respect, I have to admit I don't understand that kind of reasoning Dazmond.

It follows from what you say  that if, or when, Gardiners bring out an Extreme Mark 4 that is stronger, lighter and more rigid than the mark 3, then you ''won't care''  and will still say you can't beat a mark 3.

Really?