[Deep Cleaning Solutions]

Finally thinking of seeing what all the fuss was about and trying encapsulation.

I have always been happy with the results from micro splitters on commercial work so I may try it out on commercial but I'm thinking more for domestic work which I said I would never do 

I am trying to ease the load on my workers. They have not complained but I can tell it's getting a bit much now and they are good lads so I want to make it a bit easier for them.

I have bought a Oreck Orbiter XL with the intension of using it to encap on domestic jobs. Now I'm not necessary talking about encapping all areas on domestics. I'm thinking my workers could use it on the bigger house jobs for now, ie they could encap the upstairs and stairs and then extract the bottom floor if it's more soiled.

I know some guy's on here encap domestic homes and was wondering which encapsulation products would they recommend and are encap products in general, safe to use on wool carpets especially wool carpets with lot's of colours!

[Darran Pryce]

We mainly use Dynamall from Restormate.  Commercial carpets it works a treat and never, ever had one complain.  You will be amazed on what it lifts, it just eats away dirt from carpet tiles.

Domestic, once again, we never have any issues with it. If a carpet is really bad, we will extract first and then just bonnet over with Dynamall.  Brings the colours out on the carpet, and smells great too!

Most domestic carpets we clean,  are not that bad, this is where dynamall comes into its own.   Pre-spray, let it dwell for 10 mins then go over with the oreck or whatever else you use.

If you speak to John Kelly direct, he will be able to help more.  I know some don't like it, and think it's muck spreading (i'm not getting into an argument about it), John will be able to  enlighten otherwise.

Regards
Darran

[Deep Cleaning Solutions]

Thanks Darran.

I have just done a bit more research and had to laugh at this - https://barnsleycarpetanduphosterycleaners.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/dry-carpet-clean/

He says on one photo "dry cleaned carpet using Dynamall" but you can see  the wand marks! 

[Darran Pryce]

Thanks Darran.

I have just done a bit more research and had to laugh at this - https://barnsleycarpetanduphosterycleaners.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/dry-carpet-clean/

He says on one photo "dry cleaned carpet using Dynamall" but you can see  the wand marks! 

 

[creighton foyle]

those marks could have been made with a host or similar.

[first impressions]

Please lm guys wear hard hats the girls will be back soon.

[gwrightson]

I personally wouldn't use encap on domestic, not for the majority any way, I have used on l/p in kitchens .

As for the wand marks in the picture a contra rotating  machine does make similar marks.

Geoff

[Dave_Lee]

Encapping is not dry cleaning it's wet cleaning, it uses water. How some CCs get away with describing it as that is unbelievable. Many years ago with the introduction of the 'Trade Descriptions Act',  HWE cleaners were to stop referring to it as 'Steam Cleaning' as steam was just a bi product and not a cleaning ingredient. It's the same with guys who use 'dry' compounds, often they will pre spray awkward areas - end of dry cleaning, it's wet cleaning. There's no two ways about it, it's one or the other, if water is used in any amount, it's wet cleaning!
Dave.

[gwrightson]

How about low moisture cleaning Dave ?

would that suffice ?

Geoff

[neil 47]

Deep clean
office done with encap

you are right those are wand marks, and the reason is i dry cleaned it with dynamall and a crb which left some fluff and as i had the hwe kit out at the same time i used it to suck up the fluff . I have the pro 35 now and just put the trays on .

I also use host sponges with the 35 and coupled with dynamall it makes a excellent selling point instantly dry

 ive been using dynamall for a good few years now and its great  Ive done 2 jobs both encap this week  and used Zipdri encap with great results .


I love encapping and do it at every opportunity and customers love it as well
 

Neil at  www.barnsleycarpetanduphosterycleaners.wordpress.com

[Deep Cleaning Solutions]

Yep, going to sound smug but I knew they were wand marks as I'm always right!  
The wand marks are too small to be crb or host ect.

I also think this could be a good selling point as drying times are probably what customers ask about most!

Thanks Neil, some great info there and it's something I'm definitely going to start to introduce more to domestic work.

[neil 47]

Encap v Hwe

it shouldn't be a competition its about what the customers want .

I always ask them which kind of clean they want and if its 50/50 i tell them if they are not happy with the encap clean I will reclean using hwe .  Never had one yet ask for hwe after encap .( obviously if its heavily soiled I always recommend extraction, but still bonnet afterwards  )

its carpet cleaners who have the problem not customers  .

[edward coller]

tell me tell me.....Dynamal is sprayed on and then  padded off with a dry pad ?

[Carpet Dawg]

tell me tell me.....Dynamal is sprayed on and then  padded off with a dry pad ?

Its agitated in to the carpet with a scrubbing pad (like a zebra pad). Spray the pad with dynamal as well as the carpet. Works better. Works better and quicker if you have a tank on the rotary too keeping the pad lubricated and solution on the carpet.

You can also rub it in with the carpet with CRC brush system but from my experience rotary is better.

That's my experience with commercial low profile carpet anyway.  Don't fancy using it on domestic carpets.