[Rich Wilts]

Try doing the same over the summer days where the drying time is much quicker with the water .
The results will be unsatisfactory

If that statement is true there is a suggestion that the makeup of the mix of water (it's constituents) left on the glass changes with time. Which we all know water doesn't if it's just sitting there, twiddling it's thumbs.

I've heard this said before on here, it's by guys IMO who don't rinse as adequately or thoroughly as they could.

[dave f]

some of you rely do need to get a life

[NBwcs]

"Interesting thought isn't it. Wouldn't it be handy to just fill the tank from the tap? "

Handy for the customer to clean their own windows too if they dont need pure water. Handy for every man and his dog  who wouldnt need a garage/shed for a static system or an expensive van system to start up a wc business. A simple additive which gets rid of the negative effects of tap water isnt in my interests. and i doubt its in many window cleaners interests when you start thinking of the implications. How about we leave the status quo just as it is, lets just keep producing the old "magic water".

[Mike55]

"Interesting thought isn't it. Wouldn't it be handy to just fill the tank from the tap? "

Handy for the customer to clean their own windows too if they dont need pure water. Handy for every man and his dog  who wouldnt need a garage/shed for a static system or an expensive van system to start up a wc business. A simple additive which gets rid of the negative effects of tap water isnt in my interests. and i doubt its in many window cleaners interests when you start thinking of the implications. How about we leave the status quo just as it is, lets just keep producing the old "magic water".

That was my initial thought Nick - but even if this turned out to be true - it's still a s**t job that people don't want to do.   The car washing business is booming for the same reason...

[Rich Wilts]

"Interesting thought isn't it. Wouldn't it be handy to just fill the tank from the tap? "

Handy for the customer to clean their own windows too if they dont need pure water. Handy for every man and his dog  who wouldnt need a garage/shed for a static system or an expensive van system to start up a wc business. A simple additive which gets rid of the negative effects of tap water isnt in my interests. and i doubt its in many window cleaners interests when you start thinking of the implications. How about we leave the status quo just as it is, lets just keep producing the old "magic water".

True. But if the science is the science there's nothing to do to change that. Why ignore it if its true? Would you seriously continue to produce R.O. water if it is was absolutely unnecessary and proven to be unnecessary? I wouldn't. You'd be mad to and mad to ignore it.

[Jonny 87]

The only way for something like this to work is if you made a window so hydrophilic that it left itself completely dry after you've rinsed.

If your leaving water on a window that is above 50ppm it WILL leave a spot. You may not see it in dull days but if you were to get direct sun it would look terrible.

[Dave Willis]

I'm inclined to agree - but why doesn't my dishwasher spot? Are the chemicals so strong they dissolve  impurities? Blieve me my dishwasher is far from pure 

[kempy]

some of you rely do need to get a life

Absolutely .
Going to refrain from these posts
I'm super bored

[kempy]

Is dishwasher cleaning for s 2/3 hour cycles with heat and constantly cleaned during that 3 hours ?
My glasses come out with sediment marks .

Different type of glass (drinking glass )  to a window pane ?
Different washing cycle  of 2 to 3 hours , compared to a window that's 30 seconds ?

Don't know . Lol

[Rich Wilts]

Going to refrain from these posts

Is dishwasher cleaning for s 2/3 hour cycles with heat and constantly cleaned during that 3 hours ?
My glasses come out with sediment marks .

Different type of glass (drinking glass )  to a window pane ?
Different washing cycle  of 2 to 3 hours , compared to a window that's 30 seconds ?

Don't know . Lol

 

[Jonny 87]

I'm inclined to agree - but why doesn't my dishwasher spot? Are the chemicals so strong they dissolve  impurities? Blieve me my dishwasher is far from pure 

Mayb the heat at which your dishwasher dries?

I know they have an actual drying cycle, rather than like us just leaving water to evaporate naturally.

Mayb your into the next new thing. Some kind of hairdryer attached to our poles to dry off the glass. 

[dave f]

yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn

[CleanClear]

Strange some of the resistance to even the idea of it. Has anyone even tried some HG yet in either their pure water or tap water to find out ?

All be out of jobs if the public find out !!! Couldn't make that up. Only Kempy will be out of a second business if it works !! 

Come on someone else try it, give another 1st hand opinion.

[CleanClear]

Try doing the same over the summer days where the drying time is much quicker with the water .
The results will be unsatisfactory

If that statement is true there is a suggestion that the makeup of the mix of water (it's constituents) left on the glass changes with time. Which we all know water doesn't if it's just sitting there, twiddling it's thumbs.

I've heard this said before on here, it's by guys IMO who don't rinse as adequately or thoroughly as they could.

IF what he says is true, it almost means he knows the results are ok now in cooler weather ? And he's the water/chemist/specialist not us ?

[Dave Willis]

Wouldn't be out of a job 'cos you'd still have to scrub the windows and rinse. Wouldn't need to tell them your water wasn't quite so magical.
I think my tds would be too high to work - who knows. My shower doors get rinsed with 300tds when I've Viakalled them - don't seem to spot for a week or two. Someone tried Demon Shine on one of the forums but it left a wax coating. I remember one numpty was going to try white spirit on here years ago. 

GG4 is supposed to contain something that dissolves calcium and magnesium deposits from hard water spotting - not sure if it still would at such low dilution rates.

[Dave Willis]

yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn

Don't read it then 

[NBwcs]

"All be out of jobs if the public find out !!! Couldn't make that up"

You just did! nobody said anything about all being out of a job, but you'd have to be pretty blinkered if you cant see that the negatives would outway the positives of finding a way of getting rid of the need for pure water.

[CleanClear]

"All be out of jobs if the public find out !!! Couldn't make that up"

You just did! nobody said anything about all being out of a job, but you'd have to be pretty blinkered if you cant see that the negatives would outway the positives of finding a way of getting rid of the need for pure water.

Years ago Nick i used to run a hose to my van and have it running for about 3 or 4 hours to fill up. As everyone had their RO on the side of the tank in the back of the van. Years ago i used to buy and use DI resin, i've never used it in years now. And it all that time i've had trad guys telling me the lots a load of crap.  I just go with what works easiest. And i could be totally wrong, but lets see....................

[Rich Wilts]

yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn

yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn

[Rich Wilts]

Come on someone else try it, give another 1st hand opinion.

I'll rig something up to have a go this week sometime. Even if it means 100 litres in the bottom of the van setup. I need to get some HG first. I'll let you know how it goes.

My tap-water TDS is about 300 so thats a reasonable test.