[Ed Valentine]

Ya, I'm convinced, John!  When was the last time you saw a JAGUAR 8.4 system that wasn't two years old with the vents missing?

That was real good..................................................................lol!  Wonder why you just don't concentrate on the "machine(s) you prefer to promote" instead of trying to cut down another?

Wonder why you didn't suggest honestly to andre to have a look and demo all of those units to make his own determination?  Then chose which one is more powerful and put together well?  Both you and I know that this would be common sense and something which all should do, right?

I'm sure that those asking for your opinion really appreciate it, especially if you were above board and honest.


"the beat goes on...........................................and on.......................................................................

Ed Valentine
cross-american.com

[sean oregan]

Ed makes a very good point, you should try different machines and speak with all the manufacturers about them.
Ed knows everything about the jag system as he exports them to the uk distributor.
At least that way you can make an informed choice.

[Dave_Lee]

Yes Andrew, you are at the same point as I was a few months ago - Evolution or Enforcer - I went with the Evo because I knew that Alltec wouldn't let me down or make excuses for anything. I'm not saying that Ashbyes would, not at all, I went with the company that supplied my last portable and 2 Tm's and van.
The Evolution comes with 2" hose and as normal is attached to a 1.5" whip line to the tool.
On arrival at the job, you would fill the tank with hot water from the customers hot tap (Heat IS important) and while you set everything else up, the in-tank heater would be switched on and heating the water to around 40degs C. When it has reached this temp, that heater is switched off and the inline heaters switched on, to provide constant hot water as you work. If you stop wanding or whatever for more than a couple of minutes, it is advisable to switch the inline heaters off to prevent them overheating. You are correct that when filling the tank on auto fill from a cold water source, you would have to switch the in-tank heater on to bring it to 40deg C. Hot water cleans better and the carpet dries faster.
Dave.

[john martin]

Ya, I'm convinced, John!  When was the last time you saw a JAGUAR 8.4 system that wasn't two years old with the vents missing?

vents missing ? the holes ?
I found a pic of the new 7 holes in the bottom version , which is clearly an up grade to the old four holes in the bottom version .
next year u could upgrade it to a nine hole edition , there is still room

http://images.postadsuk.com/2015/09/13/postadsuk.com-carpet-cleaning-machine-car-for-sale-property-amp-shipping.JPG

[andre w]

They told me at ashby that I could have it on a separate plug in like on the 800 so if I wanted both on at the same time I could extra cost of course not sure if am making a big deal over nothing tho
Also I will be test driving any machine 1st before I buy thanks ed

[Ed Valentine]

John;

At the very least you could find one of our machines which isn't so darn old. That appears to be an older Jaguar 6.6 model. But, more importantly, bet it has done a lot of great workmanship which is what really counts.

The newer Jaguar 8.4 Industrial models are all vented and enclosed on bottom. (But, bet you already knew that-LOL!)

Anyways, doesn't change my opinion of demoing equipment prior to purchase if possible. Otherwise, (using yourself as a perfect example btw) don't trash another system (especially an updated model) unless you have had the personal experience of using it.
BTW, do you happen to know what one of the top selling high performance (ETM) systems are currently in the UK? There has to be a very good reason because there are a ton of really educated and professional operators in your country with terrific reputations. 

Best;
Ed Valentine

[andre w]

So far with hoses wands hand tools machines and sprayers ashby are so far £500 more expensive than alltec with similar spec machines auto fill dump ect only Evo is 600 and enforcer 400 but does that really matter , need to find out the weight of the enforcer I do like the fact it does looks more portable
 

[andre w]

Also any one used the ashby turbo vac wand ,  a bloke has been telling me who works there it will perform better that the sebo for pre dry soil extraction witch I find questiable   

[john martin]

John;

At the very least you could find one of our machines which isn't so darn old. That appears to be an older Jaguar 6.6 model.



BTW, do you happen to know what one of the top selling high performance (ETM) systems are currently in the UK? There has to be a very good reason   

Best;
Ed Valentine

yes , there is a very good reason .  Its  promoted on site falsely posing as a public CC discussion forum to fool newbies into buying it .