[jonboywalton75]

Please excuse my ignorance but I want to try the tubeless pole system and wondered if I can do it this way:-
I use an slx 18 90% of the time with an aquadapter.
I also use a supermax 47 cut down to a 30 at other times and add the rest if the sections when needed.
To go tubeless on both do I need 2 stage ones and 1 stage 2?
Also do I need 50 feet of pole hose connected to my microbore all the time?
Advice appreciated on this one lads?

[jonboywalton75]

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[JackieW]

As far as I can tell it's only pole section 1, the thinnest one, that has the male fitting on the end.

By adding extra pole sections all that is happening is the male fitting is getting further from the pole end bung.

I would have  enough pole hose jointed to the  normal minibore or microbore hose that means you can add extra pole lengths if you want.

So you would need a Stage 2 for each pole you wish to convert, two in your case, (male fiitings)

and one Stage 1 for the main hose reel. (female fitting).

I think he sells a Stage 1 &2 as a single item then add a stage 2 for your second pole.

[slap bash]

You will need a pole hose  as long as your longest pol.

[jonboywalton75]

Cheers for the replies lads.
Re the length of pole hose.

If I put 30 feet of pole hose on my microbore wouldn't the 20 or so feet of microbore go up my pole along with the pole hose.
I thought I saw a video of someone who went tubeless with only the pole hose for section 1.

[JackieW]

If your longest pole fully extended is going to be 30 ft then as long as the pole hose is at least that length then the microbore cannot ever reach the bottom of the pole or go up inside.

Yes I saw the video of the microbore/minibore going up inside the pole but that would add more weight I would have thought.
But it seems possible.

I would just have plenty of pole hose jointed to the minibore  instead.

[Smurf]

The question begs why would anyone want to use a much heavier and larger diameter type hose that would fit inside a wfp rather than using pole hose for a window cleaning pole?

[oldman]

The question begs why would anyone want to use a much heavier and larger diameter type hose that would fit inside a wfp rather than using pole hose for a window cleaning pole?

...because in actual use the difference is hardly noticeable.

[tlwcs]

This is appalling that Steven has not replied to you on here, maybe like selling poles it's to much hassle.
I normally get a reply from him on Facebook.
Tony

[jonboywalton75]

Thanks for the help lads, I've ordered all my tubeless stuff from Steve.
Waiting for univalve now!!!

[Micky Barber]

This is appalling that Steven has not replied to you on here, maybe like selling poles it's to much hassle.
I normally get a reply from him on Facebook.
Tony

He is skint, can't anyone tell? You don't stop selling poles because you can't be @rsed and stop making Aquadapters without having a replacement! Come on!

[Smurf]

The question begs why would anyone want to use a much heavier and larger diameter type hose that would fit inside a wfp rather than using pole hose for a window cleaning pole?

...because in actual use the difference is hardly noticeable.

Surely it would defeat the object of buying and using lightweight wfp's if say using micro or minbore hose as pole hose espesially when used on accute angles and using longer poles

[oldman]

The question begs why would anyone want to use a much heavier and larger diameter type hose that would fit inside a wfp rather than using pole hose for a window cleaning pole?

...because in actual use the difference is hardly noticeable.

Surely it would defeat the object of buying and using lightweight wfp's if say using micro or minbore hose as pole hose espesially when used on accute angles and using longer poles

What part of this don't you understand Smurfy......'

...because in actual use the difference is hardly noticeable.

[tlwcs]

This is appalling that Steven has not replied to you on here, maybe like selling poles it's to much hassle.
I normally get a reply from him on Facebook.
Tony

Being appalling is your opinion, i have not always got time to spare, checking forums.

But i try my best.

Steve, Im aware of that and have messaged you in the past when there is a thread that I thought you should know about.
Whilst the o/p was asking for help you were active in the univalve one so I'm surprised you didn't see this one.
Lets hope I'm the only one that finds your communication appalling.
Tony

[Smurf]

The question begs why would anyone want to use a much heavier and larger diameter type hose that would fit inside a wfp rather than using pole hose for a window cleaning pole?

...because in actual use the difference is hardly noticeable.

Surely it would defeat the object of buying and using lightweight wfp's if say using micro or minbore hose as pole hose espesially when used on accute angles and using longer poles

What part of this don't you understand Smurfy......'

...because in actual use the difference is hardly noticeable.

What type & extended length of wfp's are you actually on about?

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

The question begs why would anyone want to use a much heavier and larger diameter type hose that would fit inside a wfp rather than using pole hose for a window cleaning pole?

...because in actual use the difference is hardly noticeable.

Surely it would defeat the object of buying and using lightweight wfp's if say using micro or minbore hose as pole hose espesially when used on accute angles and using longer poles

maybe you should get to the gym and get mans arms

we have home made tube less poles running just two inc tails (pole hose) then its straight inside with the micro boar , no nasty loops of pole hose , no need for crapy ball things and no need to cut your pole down nor pay out for needless rubbish

the only time the lads notice the weight is 5 storys and and higher here

[Smurf]

The question begs why would anyone want to use a much heavier and larger diameter type hose that would fit inside a wfp rather than using pole hose for a window cleaning pole?

...because in actual use the difference is hardly noticeable.

Surely it would defeat the object of buying and using lightweight wfp's if say using micro or minbore hose as pole hose espesially when used on accute angles and using longer poles

maybe you should get to the gym and get mans arms

we have home made tube less poles running just two inc tails (pole hose) then its straight inside with the micro boar , no nasty loops of pole hose , no need for crapy ball things and no need to cut your pole down nor pay out for needless rubbish

the only time the lads notice the weight is 5 storys and and higher here

Susan, maybe you should have a go at extending a long pole using microbore yourself. Then swap it over with pole hose to see which one you find is easier to use yourself weight wise.  Then do the same comparison with water flowing through both and wash a few windows with the pole fully extended.

I would be interested to hear your findings as is nothing to do with how strong you are but is down to good working practices, ergonomics and risk assessment of the process in hand.

As an employer you have a duty of care to your employees to help prevent strain and injury, RSI etc do you not?

[jonboywalton75]

Thanks Steve, I'm sure you have enough to do without looking at forums all day

[jonboywalton75]

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The criteria to convert your poles to tubeless is the sections must all be level at base cap end.

I have found the xtreme pole as stepped sections which creates a problem, not sure about supermax.



If you have cut it down then i assume all sections to be level at the base now

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When I say cut down, I actually meant I just use enough sections of the supermax 47 to reach 30 feet and add the rest when needed.
So I may have to saw off a small part of each section so that  all are  level at base cap end to make tubeless work.
Is this correct?

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

The question begs why would anyone want to use a much heavier and larger diameter type hose that would fit inside a wfp rather than using pole hose for a window cleaning pole?

...because in actual use the difference is hardly noticeable.

Surely it would defeat the object of buying and using lightweight wfp's if say using micro or minbore hose as pole hose espesially when used on accute angles and using longer poles

maybe you should get to the gym and get mans arms

we have home made tube less poles running just two inc tails (pole hose) then its straight inside with the micro boar , no nasty loops of pole hose , no need for crapy ball things and no need to cut your pole down nor pay out for needless rubbish

the only time the lads notice the weight is 5 storys and and higher here

Susan, maybe you should have a go at extending a long pole using microbore yourself. Then swap it over with pole hose to see which one you find is easier to use yourself weight wise.  Then do the same comparison with water flowing through both and wash a few windows with the pole fully extended.

I would be interested to hear your findings as is nothing to do with how strong you are but is down to good working practices, ergonomics and risk assessment of the process in hand.

As an employer you have a duty of care to your employees to help prevent strain and injury, RSI etc do you not?

what you think I haven't been and used this set up ? I try them all out and a was on the glass myself for 6 mouths using a slx35 as a daily pole  thanks , and I never ask anybody to do something a cant or can not do myself , don't think because I am a woman that I cant do it ,

 duty of care for employees hows that work then ? ok heres a light pole don't worrie about the twisted up mess of pole hose that wraps around you feet and will trip you up ,