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NWH

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Gas Heaters
« on: January 20, 2016, 02:47:29 pm »
Is there any company that sells gas heaters that are installed by them,I thought I read somewhere once that Calor now do one. My diesel heater is good and has been since I got it but it plays havoc with the battery's even when there properly split charged they drain a hell of a lot of power. I mains charged 1 the other day it was reading 14 volts before I turned the van  off and then within 10 minutes using the heater dropped it to 11.4 and then it powered off due to lack of battery power,thing is with gas it only requires ignition after that your only powering a 12volt pump just working cold my battery never dropped below 12.5 Volts.

Smurf

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2016, 03:01:15 pm »
If you happen to live in ireland the yes sureclean do a calor gas approved heater install.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSsRn6PwZ-w

Smurf

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2016, 03:04:13 pm »
You will also find ConceptHO use the same lpg heater as sureclean use under the hood of their systems

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2016, 04:28:16 pm »
Oh yes please coffee with legionaires disease.. lovely!
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NWH

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2016, 05:20:33 pm »
I've seen that Sureclean clip before it looks like it's an L5 heater I've had one years ago but it does get very hot the water that is,I'm more interested in the fact that they don't drain your main battery. My water gets hot enough with the diesel heater but like I say it kills the battery's.

Smurf

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2016, 05:44:39 pm »
I've seen that Sureclean clip before it looks like it's an L5 heater I've had one years ago but it does get very hot the water that is,I'm more interested in the fact that they don't drain your main battery. My water gets hot enough with the diesel heater but like I say it kills the battery's.

No it's not an L5  ;D

windowswashed

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2016, 07:54:28 pm »
Run two or three batteries parallel so 3x 110 amp = 330 amps but still only 12 volt. Last three times longer before battery cutting out on low voltage. Recharge batteries with pos on batt 1 and neg on batt 3

NWH

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2016, 08:14:55 pm »
I have a 115amp and a 110 amp in the van but as the 115 is new I just connected that up but I have run 2 before,how are you saying wire them up again

NWH

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2016, 08:20:02 pm »
Are you saying piggy back them when charging them so in effect they are working as 1 battery.

NWH

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2016, 08:20:23 pm »
Or charging as 1

Smudger

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2016, 08:46:56 pm »
If you connect say 3  12v 100 amp battery's together in line it makes one big battery 300 amp but stays at 12volts

If you wired them alternate positive to negative your big battery would be 100 amps but 36v

So using 3 inline would last six hours rather than your current 2 hours

Hope this helps

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

NWH

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2016, 09:44:43 pm »
I'll be lucky 2 fully charged batteries with a split charge after 20 or so miles as well after about 45 mins use the controller starts saying the flow and batt and it drops to about 11-7 volts. If I turn the heater off and run cold it will never drop below 12-5 volts. The heater is killing the batteries,it's doing my head in that's why I'm looking to go down the gas route if it's a proper install I know concept do them but someone I know has had trouble with his since he got it.

Smudger

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2016, 10:00:34 pm »
Which heater you got, sounds like somethings wrong somewhere, or can you only run these heaters while the van is running ??

So just checking you have two leisure batteries wired together in the back of the van to power the pump and heater - is that correct?

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

NWH

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2016, 05:12:07 pm »
I used to use 2 battery's piggy backed together but I was told a 115 amp one split charged should be enough,I have a varitech heatwave and like I say when van is running its 14 v happy days then drops to 12.6 or 12.5 then continuously drops down to 11.4 today funny enough with just that 1 battery it was ok but that's the first time it has been for ages.

ChumBucket

Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2016, 05:41:45 pm »
Sounds more like a bad connection somewhere or something similar.

NWH

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2016, 11:08:01 pm »
That's what I lve been thinking about a bad connection I think I'm going to have to check all the wiring.

windowswashed

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2016, 11:25:15 pm »
Diesel heaters do run the battery down quick.
I use to run a diesel heater all day on a separate 110 amp battery which was connected to a split charge from van main battery and it never let me down during the working day so maybe it's your battery connection.
Use to run  two pumps on a separate battery for two users and could notice that getting slower as the day wore on as flow would gradually reduce as voltage dropped.

windowswashed

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2016, 11:29:52 pm »
Have you checked your fuses as they may be corroding or wearing thin. I've had problems with fuse blades in the past and replaced them then everything works efficiently again.

CleanClear

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2016, 12:11:52 am »
Oh yes please coffee with legionaires disease.. lovely!

The Legionaires implications come from the storage of tepid water. So maybe an immersion set up ? And on demand hot water system couldn't possibly be an incubator for Legionaires, in this country at least !!!  :)
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dazmond

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Re: Gas Heaters
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2016, 09:59:20 am »
I'll be lucky 2 fully charged batteries with a split charge after 20 or so miles as well after about 45 mins use the controller starts saying the flow and batt and it drops to about 11-7 volts. If I turn the heater off and run cold it will never drop below 12-5 volts. The heater is killing the batteries,it's doing my head in that's why I'm looking to go down the gas route if it's a proper install I know concept do them but someone I know has had trouble with his since he got it.

you dont need someone to fit a gas heater for you.they are dead easy to rig up.cheap too compared to diesel heaters.you can have the water scalding hot for add on jobs too if you want.

it costs me £3-50-£4-00 a day to use hot all day.i have an L10 though so even on min settings its warm(30-35 degrees).im using it every day in winter but ill switch it off in spring/summer and just use it for filthy first cleans/add ons.

two D cell batteries is all you need for auto ignition
price higher/work harder!