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Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2016, 08:13:40 pm »
Nice one...Let us know how you get on  ;)

Nick knows his onions so to speak being a gutter cleaner and all.  Unlike many that just ship boxes and don't seem to have a clue regards gutter clearing .

Nick I'm waiting in antisipation for me free set of heads  to try in loo of commision. Ta very much   ;D

Plankton

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2016, 11:23:41 pm »
A few tips
1. The less you pay, the quicker you will be in profit, the more you pay the quicker your supplier will be in  profit.
2. Any thing over £300/400 is all bells and whistles.
3. Needing over, or any thing like 3000 watts, is total nonsense!!


1. The less you pay the sooner it will fall apart...
2. Anything at £300/£400 from a gutter vac company is probably worth £100 - get a wet/dry vac off eBay
3. True if you want to take all day doing a 10 minute job and lose your profit !!!

If your going to gutter vac then at least start out the decent equipment otherwise I think it's doomed to fail

Darran
I've tried the cheap setup and it didn't last long. Forget ali poles and under powered vacs and cheap genys.

The setup iv ordered from nick is a 3000w triple motor nilfisk vac, with carbon poles.
OK it's not the most expensive on the market, but certainly not the cheapest.
Will do me fine for the odd bit of gutter work I'm sure.
The 3000w Viper is one I was looking at although it's a Viper not Nilfisk. The Nilfisk group dose own Viper which are made in China and you don't get the 2 year warranty like you get with the Nilfisk.
Good luck for when you get it, after a couple of full days you'll feel other muscles starting to ache.

jd services

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2016, 10:17:32 am »

There you go a 40 foot 3000 watt kit for 795 squid mucker http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html

Chris. I have that kit and it works well in my opinion. Come and have a look if you aren't sure.  That white Peugeot is going well. Dave

chris dosell

Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2016, 02:54:16 pm »
ive run omnipole gutter vac for 3 years now one of my motors blew cost me £165 for a new one yes they are expensive

Smudger

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2016, 03:36:58 pm »
Chris - if you ever need a motor in the future I'll dig out the company I found they cost just £75.00 all in

Thankfully only had one blow in six years 😰
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chris turner

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2016, 03:42:47 pm »

There you go a 40 foot 3000 watt kit for 795 squid mucker http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/3000carbonfibrekits.html

Chris. I have that kit and it works well in my opinion. Come and have a look if you aren't sure.  That white Peugeot is going well. Dave

Iv ordered the same kit bud, the 30ft one though.
Do you use a generator or plug into customers mains?
Glad the vans OK, done me well for 5 years, very slow but just keeps going and going :D

Nick Day

Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2016, 04:01:40 pm »
Hello Chris,

The Viper is an incredibly reliable bit of kit. We have not had a motor go in two years, we have sold hundreds of machines.
At 400 grams per pole your arms won't ache, especially with the carbon head and tools.
5' working length is the perfect length for gutter cleaning.
Domestics gutters are usually about 16' high, which is three poles. Three stories is five poles plus a sixth if the ground drops away.
6' working length poles are a headache,two are to short for domestics and three are banging on the floor. When we used them we had to cut one in half to get a decent set of useful lengths.

Smudger

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2016, 04:26:09 pm »
👍Nick spot on.

But I would still rather have the 6 foot lengths and have a half section than so many 5 footers pushed together, esp. On the three storey stuff

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chris turner

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2016, 04:38:39 pm »
Hello Chris,

The Viper is an incredibly reliable bit of kit. We have not had a motor go in two years, we have sold hundreds of machines.
At 400 grams per pole your arms won't ache, especially with the carbon head and tools.
5' working length is the perfect length for gutter cleaning.
Domestics gutters are usually about 16' high, which is three poles. Three stories is five poles plus a sixth if the ground drops away.
6' working length poles are a headache,two are to short for domestics and three are banging on the floor. When we used them we had to cut one in half to get a decent set of useful lengths.

Nick can you recommend a decent extension reel to power the vac?
Looking for 40/50 metres, preferably weatherproof.

They are hard to find, can see plenty of 240v 50m but non are weatherproof.
How do people protect extension reels when clearing gutters in rain??

Smudger

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2016, 04:46:36 pm »
Chris - how waterproof is your vac ??? What's it's ip rating

I don't think nick would reccomend working in the rain while using 240 volts

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chris dosell

Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2016, 05:05:46 pm »
Chris - if you ever need a motor in the future I'll dig out the company I found they cost just £75.00 all in

Thankfully only had one blow in six years 😰
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           great if can you dig out the company where i can get the motor cheers ;D

chris turner

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2016, 05:13:03 pm »
Chris - how waterproof is your vac ??? What's it's ip rating

I don't think nick would reccomend working in the rain while using 240 volts

Darran

No idea what the ip rating is smudge.
So you wouldnt recommend using the vac in rain then ;D

Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2016, 05:43:24 pm »
I've never had a problem with me hair standing on end if thats what you mean?  ;D

Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2016, 05:48:24 pm »
Nick spot on.

But I would still rather have the 6 foot lengths and have a half section than so many 5 footers pushed together, esp. On the three storey stuff

Darran

+ 1

Nick Day

Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2016, 06:01:50 pm »
All wet vacs are waterproof. The machines are designed to not allow water into the top, and the motors blow moisture out of the tops.
It is a good idea and essential if you are letting employees use these machines, cut off the plug (allow yourself about three foot of cable) then fit a 16 amp waterproof plug (they are blue and easily available). Put the socket end (they normally come in plug and socket sets) onto the 3' cable with your 13 amp plug to form a rat tail. This is handy when you don't need an extension cable.
16 amp extension cables are readily available.

chris turner

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2016, 07:12:24 pm »
All wet vacs are waterproof. The machines are designed to not allow water into the top, and the motors blow moisture out of the tops.
It is a good idea and essential if you are letting employees use these machines, cut off the plug (allow yourself about three foot of cable) then fit a 16 amp waterproof plug (they are blue and easily available). Put the socket end (they normally come in plug and socket sets) onto the 3' cable with your 13 amp plug to form a rat tail. This is handy when you don't need an extension cable.
16 amp extension cables are readily available.

So if I convert the plug on the vac to 16 amp, the vac can then plug into a 16 amp 240v extension reel, which are safer in rain.
http://www.sibbons.co.uk/product/4732/1006/50m_240v_16amp_site_open_cable_reel_2_5mm_8048
Then if I add this onto the plug on the extension reel
http://www.alltools.co.uk/defender-13-16a-fly-lead-e85301-240-volt.html?utm_source=Froogle?utm_medium=Shopping?utm_campaign=Shopping&gclid=CjwKEAiA8ee0BRD1l7vV6JHe0zISJADxYItmkytzwLxXk7vndLUIN7YQ0MA-qjyNNuVdIsdS1ln8vxoCcnnw_wcB

I can connect to customers socket. Correct?


Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2016, 07:28:25 pm »
Or just don't bother as you can just stick the extention reel with the vac plugged into it in a plastic bag if need be.
I also always unwind the cable off the reel fully otherwise using a bag or not it can overheat.

You can also use a dribox if you wanted but to save cost as generaly they are too small to fit a large extention cable reel in you could diy one yourself out of a chepo platic storage box.

Nick Day

Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2016, 07:36:21 pm »
Hello Chris,
Yes you are right.

Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2016, 07:42:31 pm »
My old 110 volt 4200 watt vacs were fitted with 32 amp dry plugs and the extention cables too.


Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2016, 07:47:59 pm »
Nick I'm supprised that you don't mod the cables yourself on the guttervacs you sell being that they are for outside use.
Mind you no other supplier that I know of selling 240 volt vacs bother either.