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Smudger

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2016, 11:23:50 am »
Not in driving rain, all connections are 16 amp waterproof  as is extentions etc...

While the vac has some water resistance many are only ipx4 which is 'splash' resistant .
Ipx5 is resistant to water "jet" from any direction.

It's not for me to say don't use it in the rain, that comes down to your own common sense and the seller, but having staff I also have a  duty of care that they don't get fried....

Just think what fun we could all have if solar Steve was actually caller gutter vac Steve !!!!

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chris dosell

Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #61 on: January 17, 2016, 11:33:52 am »
Not in driving rain, all connections are 16 amp waterproof  as is extentions etc...

While the vac has some water resistance many are only ipx4 which is 'splash' resistant .
Ipx5 is resistant to water "jet" from any direction.

It's not for me to say don't use it in the rain, that comes down to your own common sense and the seller, but having staff I also have a  duty of care that they don't get fried....

Just think what fun we could all have if solar Steve was actually caller gutter vac Steve !!!!

Darran
unrelated question could you get me the company no, for the omnipole gutter vac motor you mentioned yesterday cheers chris

Smudger

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #62 on: January 17, 2016, 11:49:45 am »
I'll dig out the details tomorrow if that's ok

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chris dosell

Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #63 on: January 17, 2016, 11:53:35 am »
cheers

chris turner

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #64 on: January 17, 2016, 01:48:13 pm »
Decided not to convert to 16amp in the end.
After scanning around it seems a lot of guys work in the rain and just keep the extension and vac covered with plastic bags or waterproof sheeting.
If I get electrocuted, I have only myself to blame, and maybe smurf ;D

Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #65 on: January 17, 2016, 01:51:31 pm »
Sorry but you are responsible for your own health & safety so nothing to do with me  ;D

Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #66 on: January 17, 2016, 01:58:41 pm »
Speaking of guttervac jobs and good old H&S I'm just wondering how you guy's would go about this without the risk of damaging the consertvatory roof below?

Bearing in mind it's a pair of semi's so the conservatory belongs to next door.

Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #67 on: January 17, 2016, 02:51:47 pm »
Speaking of guttervac jobs and good old H&S I'm just wondering how you guy's would go about this without the risk of damaging the consertvatory roof below?

Bearing in mind it's a pair of semi's so the conservatory belongs to next door.

On that big chunk of mortar I was thinking along the lines of using the likes a landing net on a stripped down wfp pole to catch it myself. What do you think?

One job simular to that this time above a glass conservatory roof the owner provided me with an old single bed matteres that I put up on the roof just incase stuff like that fell out of the gutter or roof valley and/or fell off the end of the guttervac pole as they do. ;D

the king

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #68 on: January 17, 2016, 03:34:04 pm »
a old bit of carpet would have sorted that, or u just say it was a astroid falling from the sky ;D on a sersus note that a good example y u do a gutter survay b 4 u start  ;D

Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #69 on: January 17, 2016, 07:25:46 pm »
a old bit of carpet would have sorted that, or u just say it was a astroid falling from the sky ;D on a sersus note that a good example y u do a gutter survay b 4 u start  ;D

Not convinced about the carpet idea as next door may not only get a hole in their roof still for free but may get the conservatory re-carpeted for free too  ;D

I've been caught out a few times so I don't tend to quote jobs now unless I do a gutter camera survey first to see for myself what I'm letting myself in for then can price accordingly.

Here is some pics of the rest of that gutter run if interested.

Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #70 on: January 18, 2016, 10:34:41 am »
The point I'm trying to make I suppose is just because you buy and start using a guttervac you will still come across jobs that you need to think outside of the box to get the job done. Also when required still use ladders or other suitable access equipment when appropriate to reach the roofline safely to clear by hand, replace broken brackets, joints etc.

As the saying goes "No job is the same" so always best do a gutter camera survey first so you can see what you are letting yourself in for. Then you can price accordingly or if you think it's just too much hassle you always have the option to turn the job down rather than starting it and wished you never had.

Most awkward jobs I can overcome one way or another but charge a premium price for the hassle in doing so.






chris dosell

Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #71 on: January 18, 2016, 06:06:51 pm »
cheers
any luck finding that number for vac motor]

Smudger

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #72 on: January 21, 2016, 07:05:21 am »
Replacement motors are available from Hugh crane at £73 plus vat

They have one left in stock !!    Part number  kw 49594

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chris dosell

Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #73 on: January 21, 2016, 07:25:19 am »
thanks but i put the number in no results

chris turner

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #74 on: January 21, 2016, 05:58:40 pm »
First job using the kit from gutter cleaning systems today, very pleased with it!
Gutters were full of moss and a couple of plants growing from the downpipe, the vac coped with it easily with just 2 motors running.
Being a noob to gutter vacs I popped up the ladder to get a better look before and after, gutters were sucked dry!
I would say its a little slower then going up the ladder to clear the gutters, by the time you've set up, done the job, give the equipment a wash then put it all away. But its safer, thorough, a more enjoyable experience and feels more professional then doing it off a ladder.
I actually think I now prefer gutter clearing to window cleaning ;D

Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #75 on: January 21, 2016, 07:27:24 pm »
Makes it almost enjoyable don't it Chris ;D

How did you get on with the gutter cleaning systems carbon poles?

Plankton

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #76 on: January 21, 2016, 08:21:53 pm »
If your doing it all day and all week you won't be wasting time washing down the equipment and you'll get quicker with setting up etc. If it's raining it will actually help the hose stay clear, other than that it should only need a wriggle if it gets heavy.

chris turner

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #77 on: January 21, 2016, 10:25:33 pm »
Makes it almost enjoyable don't it Chris ;D

How did you get on with the gutter cleaning systems carbon poles?

The poles are light, but cheap feeling, they did the job just fine though. Certainly not Gardiner quality carbon.
Can't get along with the little mirror so will go the camara route at some point.

Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #78 on: January 22, 2016, 01:53:07 pm »
Makes it almost enjoyable don't it Chris ;D

How did you get on with the gutter cleaning systems carbon poles?

The poles are light, but cheap feeling, they did the job just fine though. Certainly not Gardiner quality carbon.
Can't get along with the little mirror so will go the camara route at some point.

Those mirrors are a total waste of time if you ask me.

I've just noticed Gardiner Pole Systems are now selling Vantage Point Products wired version http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/essential-wired-telescopic-rugged-camera-survey-inspection-kit.html Not sure about the wired version though as have used something simular before and found wired camera inspection systems a real pain in the arse to use for guttering inspections etc.

However they also sell the wifi version here that might be worth a look http://www.vantagepointproducts.com/

I went for a gopro yonks ago myself but you could also get at cheap sj400 that would probably do the same job at a fraction of the price of any of the above.




Smurf

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Re: Which gutter vac..
« Reply #79 on: January 22, 2016, 03:32:43 pm »
If you are thinking of getting a sjcam sj4000 then best you watch this video first so you don't get caught out buying a cheaper fake as are not as good as the real ones.

How to spot a fake sjcam sj4000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LjkmtQvT0M

Now you can have fun spotting the fakes http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=sjcam+sj4000&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H1.Xsj4000.TRS0&_nkw=sj4000&_sacat=0