[tony day]

You all sound like a bunch of generalists!
When you become a specialist you don't worry about being underpriced. I've notice there's to many joe bloggs with a pole driving about saying i earn X amount. The truth is as a specialist there's not much competition. I'm the Bob Dylan of window cleaning. We are just worlds apart! Sorry Guys. 

[Rich Wilts]

You all sound like a bunch of generalists! Possibly

When you become a specialist you don't worry about being underpriced.  You're right there.

I've notice there's to many joe bloggs with a pole driving about saying i earn X amount. You've noticed that too?

The truth is as a specialist there's not much competition. Too true.

I'm the Nob Dylan of window cleaning. We are just worlds apart! You're right there.

Sorry Guys.  You'll get over it

[Richard Stevenson]

I was classed as the slow Lerner at school, now I am the biggest earner,  good holidays several houses  (rented) nice car for the wife, is it a proper job , I, do say so.
Funny thing is I, m still a little shy when telling people what my profession is.

[Johnny B]

I don't care what anyone says as to whether they think it's a real job or not. What I do know is, that I built my current run up in the middle of a recession in Ireland when I relocated from Blighty.  It keeps my family and me fed, watered and clothed. I am not in debt, don't claim a cent and I am not ashamed to tell people what I do for a living.

If people look down on me, as some do, then that says more about them than me. I won't say what I earn, except to say it's a lot less than many on here claim they earn, but I you tell one thing, and that is that I am content, something which all the money in the world can't buy.

John

[tony day]

I feel like i'm in the playground with all this talk about possessions. Some on here need to go back to school when it comes to spelling & morphology!

[elite mike]

I feel like i'm in the playground with all this talk about possessions. Some on here need to go back to school when it comes to spelling & morphology!

yawn  zzzzzzzzzzzz  xx

[chris turner]

It's like the hourly issue. Those earning £25-30 an hour on the glass and thinking they're doing well are mad. By the time you take into account, holidays, sick pay, your overheads etc, I reckon you're probably better off on £12 an hour in a dead end job.

Maybe those that take a lot of holidays and are sick alot...
Personally il have a week off in summer and 2 weeks at Xmas.
Last time I took a day off sick was 2 years ago, didn't want to risk working with a bout of norovirus!
As for overheads, unless your buying a new van every couple of years then there's not a huge amount of outlay, especially after you've been established long enough to know and make use of  the most efficient methods/ best tools, equipment etc for the job.
£30 an hour, with £19-20 take home after expenses/tax suits me fine...

[W.booler]

You all sound like a bunch of generalists!
When you become a specialist you don't worry about being underpriced. I've notice there's to many joe bloggs with a pole driving about saying i earn X amount. The truth is as a specialist there's not much competition. I'm the Bob Dylan of window cleaning. We are just worlds apart! Sorry Guys. 

.                                                                                                                                      When you belittle some people for being uneducated, l think that you'll find that ( I've notice there's to many joe bloggs)  is incorrect use of the English language! It should read.... I've noticed (first mistake) there's too (second mistake... Not to!) and when using a name ie. Joe Bloggs you start with capitals. Probably year 3 basic errors!

[SB Cleaning]

I feel like i'm in the playground with all this talk about possessions. Some on here need to go back to school when it comes to spelling & morphology!

Well you know where the door is ya nob

[8weekly]

It's like the hourly issue. Those earning £25-30 an hour on the glass and thinking they're doing well are mad. By the time you take into account, holidays, sick pay, your overheads etc, I reckon you're probably better off on £12 an hour in a dead end job.

Maybe those that take a lot of holidays and are sick alot...
Personally il have a week off in summer and 2 weeks at Xmas.
Last time I took a day off sick was 2 years ago, didn't want to risk working with a bout of norovirus!
As for overheads, unless your buying a new van every couple of years then there's not a huge amount of outlay, especially after you've been established long enough to know and make use of  the most efficient methods/ best tools, equipment etc for the job.
£30 an hour, with £19-20 take home after expenses/tax suits me fine...

It's not whether you take the holidays/sick pay or not, it's the net hourly value. You can probably add an hour a day to your on "on the glass" time in van prep/admin so your £19-£20 is straight away in actuality £15-£17 an hour.

[chris turner]

It's like the hourly issue. Those earning £25-30 an hour on the glass and thinking they're doing well are mad. By the time you take into account, holidays, sick pay, your overheads etc, I reckon you're probably better off on £12 an hour in a dead end job.

Maybe those that take a lot of holidays and are sick alot...
Personally il have a week off in summer and 2 weeks at Xmas.
Last time I took a day off sick was 2 years ago, didn't want to risk working with a bout of norovirus!
As for overheads, unless your buying a new van every couple of years then there's not a huge amount of outlay, especially after you've been established long enough to know and make use of  the most efficient methods/ best tools, equipment etc for the job.
£30 an hour, with £19-20 take home after expenses/tax suits me fine...

It's not whether you take the holidays/sick pay or not, it's the net hourly value. You can probably add an hour a day to your on "on the glass" time in van prep/admin so your £19-£20 is straight away in actuality £15-£17 an hour.

Still beats stacking shelves

[G Griffin]

One of my teachers told me that I'd never amount to much and now I've got my own window cleaning business.
He was a very clever bloke.

[Cookie]

As a self-employed window cleaner I am proud to say that I assume the following roles:

chief executive officer (CEO), chief operations officer (COO), chief financial officer (CFO), chief risk officer (CRO), chief technology officer (CTO), chief marketing officer (CMO), teaboy and I have also been known to clean windows...

Of course window cleaning is a real job and after having worked in office jobs for 22+ years I get a great deal of satisfaction from working as a window cleaner!   

[NWH]

Yeah and look at most teachers they all moan about pay etc

[tony day]

I feel like i'm in the playground with all this talk about possessions. Some on here need to go back to school when it comes to spelling & morphology!

Well you know where the door is ya nob

Calm down Sinbad!

[G Griffin]

Do you see it as your Day job, Tony?

[tony day]

Do you see it as your Day job, Tony?

My day job is busking. Window cleaning is just a sideline.

[chris turner]

It's like the hourly issue. Those earning £25-30 an hour on the glass and thinking they're doing well are mad. By the time you take into account, holidays, sick pay, your overheads etc, I reckon you're probably better off on £12 an hour in a dead end job.

Maybe those that take a lot of holidays and are sick alot...
Personally il have a week off in summer and 2 weeks at Xmas.
Last time I took a day off sick was 2 years ago, didn't want to risk working with a bout of norovirus!
As for overheads, unless your buying a new van every couple of years then there's not a huge amount of outlay, especially after you've been established long enough to know and make use of  the most efficient methods/ best tools, equipment etc for the job.
£30 an hour, with £19-20 take home after expenses/tax suits me fine...

It's not whether you take the holidays/sick pay or not, it's the net hourly value. You can probably add an hour a day to your on "on the glass" time in van prep/admin so your £19-£20 is straight away in actuality £15-£17 an hour.

Not sure how you get your figures, but if your spending an hour a day on van prep/Admin your doing something wrong.
Park van on drive, put hose in tank, turn on water and pump, done.. Takes around 3 mins.
The reverse also takes 3 mins.
Admin? Cleaner planner does all that, and its very quick indeed, less then 10 mins each day.
The most time spent is probably on Sunday, cleaning van/ pile of scrims and cloths, check resin etc.
15 mins a day is a bit different to an hour.

I guess we're all different. Personally I like to make as much as I can by doing as little as I can. Upto
7 hours work, Mon -Fri, starting whatever time I can be bothered (usually after a mcmuffin meal) and finishing when my list is done. I get home, do as above and be done with work for the day.
Why don't I work harder, build my business further, run a fleet of vans, spend an hour a day on van prep/Admin? Because I can't be bothered

I'm humble and happy as I am, and have built my business upto a point to allow myself to be as lazy as possible whilst still living comfortably.
Of course it does help the other half earns just as much me, for if that wasn't the case I'd probably work a little harder.

[8weekly]

It's like the hourly issue. Those earning £25-30 an hour on the glass and thinking they're doing well are mad. By the time you take into account, holidays, sick pay, your overheads etc, I reckon you're probably better off on £12 an hour in a dead end job.

Maybe those that take a lot of holidays and are sick alot...
Personally il have a week off in summer and 2 weeks at Xmas.
Last time I took a day off sick was 2 years ago, didn't want to risk working with a bout of norovirus!
As for overheads, unless your buying a new van every couple of years then there's not a huge amount of outlay, especially after you've been established long enough to know and make use of  the most efficient methods/ best tools, equipment etc for the job.
£30 an hour, with £19-20 take home after expenses/tax suits me fine...

It's not whether you take the holidays/sick pay or not, it's the net hourly value. You can probably add an hour a day to your on "on the glass" time in van prep/admin so your £19-£20 is straight away in actuality £15-£17 an hour.

Not sure how you get your figures, but if your spending an hour a day on van prep/Admin your doing something wrong.
Park van on drive, put hose in tank, turn on water and pump, done.. Takes around 3 mins.
The reverse also takes 3 mins.
Admin? Cleaner planner does all that, and its very quick indeed, less then 10 mins each day.
The most time spent is probably on Sunday, cleaning van/ pile of scrims and cloths, check resin etc.
15 mins a day is a bit different to an hour.

I guess we're all different. Personally I like to make as much as I can by doing as little as I can. Upto
7 hours work, Mon -Fri, starting whatever time I can be bothered (usually after a mcmuffin meal) and finishing when my list is done. I get home, do as above and be done with work for the day.
Why don't I work harder, build my business further, run a fleet of vans, spend an hour a day on van prep/Admin? Because I can't be bothered

I'm humble and happy as I am, and have built my business upto a point to allow myself to be as lazy as possible whilst still living comfortably.
Of course it does help the other half earns just as much me, for if that wasn't the case I'd probably work a little harder.

Do you never have to chase debt, check payments, move jobs around, change resin, deal with enquiries, quote jobs, clean your van etc.?  In spite of what some say it all adds up and I doubt an hour a day is an exaggeration.  The main point is that £30 an hour on the glass is in reality very much less.

[tony day]

As a self-employed window cleaner I am proud to say that I assume the following roles:

chief executive officer (CEO), chief operations officer (COO), chief financial officer (CFO), chief risk officer (CRO), chief technology officer (CTO), chief marketing officer (CMO), teaboy and I have also been known to clean windows...

Of course window cleaning is a real job and after having worked in office jobs for 22+ years I get a great deal of satisfaction from working as a window cleaner!

Proud to be a window cleaner? I'd be more proud to be on the dole. And as for satisfaction! Jesus your an easy man to please. What a fantastic imagination you have!