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Nick Day

Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2016, 09:12:18 am »
Not much

Not suprised....I think this vid says it all really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KxrFl9Ijdc

That video is awesome 😂😂😂

Haha awesome video shame it's 3 years OUT OF DATE!! Mind you in his other videos he's not too complementary about the Flowmix system either!!  We had a Die made at an aluminium mill in December 2012 so since January 2013 our aluminium poles have been 25% lighter than those ones and weigh the same as Omni Metal poles. Now our 100% carbon fibre poles made by us so we can guarantee 100% carbon fibre (it's amazing how many manufacturers sneak in some fibreglass/e-glass to keep their costs down!!) weigh 385 grams for a 1.7 metre pole it's just advancement and keeping up with the times, and keeping the price way down!!
 
Mind you he forgot to mention the weight or put a link to that video  when he sold the kit on Ebay  for more than he paid us!! Not bad eh!!

Smurf

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2016, 10:07:46 am »
Not much

Not suprised....I think this vid says it all really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KxrFl9Ijdc

That video is awesome

Haha awesome video shame it's 3 years OUT OF DATE!! Mind you in his other videos he's not too complementary about the Flowmix system either!!  We had a Die made at an aluminium mill in December 2012 so since January 2013 our aluminium poles have been 25% lighter than those ones and weigh the same as Omni Metal poles. Now our 100% carbon fibre poles made by us so we can guarantee 100% carbon fibre (it's amazing how many manufacturers sneak in some fibreglass/e-glass to keep their costs down!!) weigh 385 grams for a 1.7 metre pole it's just advancement and keeping up with the times, and keeping the price way down!!
 
Mind you he forgot to mention the weight or put a link to that video  when he sold the kit on Ebay  for more than he paid us!! Not bad eh!!

I decided to go with 60 % (carbon) 40 % fibreglass hybrid poles myself at 450 grams per 2m section rather than going for slightly lighter 100% carbon. Reasons being they seem more ridged and stronger being a hybrid mix. I've not had one snap on me yet unlike others have mentioned using 100% carbon poles. Each to their own and all that.


Nick Day

Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2016, 10:36:21 am »
Smurf

Just out of curiosity where did you get them from?

Smurf

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2016, 12:07:01 pm »
Smurf

Just out of curiosity where did you get them from?

www.carbonfibertubes.co.uk 

Nick Day

Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2016, 01:36:54 pm »
Hello Smurf,

You will find they actually weigh 580+ grams. That is why we decided to make them ourselves.
As of next week we are making our head and tools with carbon fibre. We will  use a small amount of aluminium and plastic parts but the weight reduction is dramatic, making them far easier to use.

Smurf

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2016, 02:29:09 pm »
Nick, my mistake they are indeed around 580 grams per section not 450 on their stock tapered 50 OD x 2m pole sections.
Anyhow all the same I've found them to be cheap, very strong, ridged and easy to use so am very happy using them even on taller work no probs.

I also think price, weight vs longevity is a trade off so would not go for the lightest guttervac poles myself as would want them to last and not break on me. Not to mention there is a higher risk of electrocution using 100% carbon poles on their own.

I'm sure you will disagree but I think 60-40 hybrid poles are better suited for gutter clearing work than using 100% carbon poles myself.







Nick Day

Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2016, 08:55:33 pm »
Just a word of warning to everybody using these hybrid poles.
A mix does not mean that the cloth is a mix of carbon and fibreglass, it means a layer of fibreglass and a layer of carbon fibre.
With an outside layer of carbon fibre which these have, you have no protection from electric cables, so keep an eye out for cables.

Smurf

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2016, 11:28:08 pm »
Just a word of warning to everybody using these hybrid poles.
A mix does not mean that the cloth is a mix of carbon and fibreglass, it means a layer of fibreglass and a layer of carbon fibre.
With an outside layer of carbon fibre which these have, you have no protection from electric cables, so keep an eye out for cables.

Don't worry Nick as I always wear ppe anyhow  ;)

rah

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2016, 06:17:26 am »
cant be any wrose then the one we bought from polar bright in Essex what a croak of grit this set up is

Oh dear that don't sound very good. What's up with it exactly susan?

first off the hose for the hover isn't long enough so you can,nt  do a full side of a house without dragging the vac along by the pipe while the poles are in the air , unless you want to keep putting the pole down and moveing the whole thing along

we used it three times and the hoover piep is so thin its spilt in four places   

we have replaced this with 2inc truckmounted carpet cleaning pipe



Susan,

How have you found the truckmount hose, need to replace my omni pole hose ASAP

Cheers
Life used to be full of up's and downs....now i hardly ever get up a ladder :) .

Smurf

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2016, 10:24:58 am »
Just gaffer tap  the splits like I do Rah. Mind you my old patched up omni hose is so bad it don't bend very much now  ;D
I can't really grumble though as my omni hose has lasted years. I also cut it in half shortly after getting it so used 7.5m instead of 15m as found it kept getting blocked up too quick on bends with sludge being a longer run and all.

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2016, 11:22:38 am »
cant be any wrose then the one we bought from polar bright in Essex what a croak of grit this set up is

Oh dear that don't sound very good. What's up with it exactly susan?

first off the hose for the hover isn't long enough so you can,nt  do a full side of a house without dragging the vac along by the pipe while the poles are in the air , unless you want to keep putting the pole down and moveing the whole thing along

we used it three times and the hoover piep is so thin its spilt in four places   

we have replaced this with 2inc truckmounted carpet cleaning pipe



Susan,

How have you found the truckmount hose, need to replace my omni pole hose ASAP

Cheers
I love it and it works well if you live near co durham ive got 50m sat in a shed you can pick uo for free at my sons house

Smurf

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2016, 01:15:25 pm »
Susan, can I ask where you buy your hoses from as I need to look at replacing mine soon.

rah

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2016, 05:41:26 pm »
Unfortunately, Manchester area.

If you have the supplier though would be grateful.

Rob.
Life used to be full of up's and downs....now i hardly ever get up a ladder :) .

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2016, 06:40:46 pm »
I haven't bought any in years ! try on the carpet clean fourm there a good guy called john Kelly he will know where the good deals are to be had with it

rah

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Re: Gutter vac
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2016, 06:37:16 pm »
Hi Susan,

Have just ordered.

Will update once had chance to use it.
Life used to be full of up's and downs....now i hardly ever get up a ladder :) .