[Steven Butler]

Does anyone use them?
The courses are great, ive done them. Ive read loads of stuff about the machines from Cleansmart and its all good but their chemicals are very rarely mentioned...just wondered why.

[neil 47]

because they are poop

[Raj]

because they are poop

Oh Great!!!
I've bought a bus load of it!!!!!

[neil 47]

Raj

don't worry , at the end of the day its all a learning experience, you might like them , I tried them when I bought a package and wasn't impressed ..but have also tried ,prochem ,solutions,chemspec,craftex,and hydramaster

steven if you want a change try chemspec range formula 90 and dfc range

[wayne zabel]

I use a few of Cleansmart's chemical and find them fine.

I find Orange X good on draft marks and is ph8 so good for wool.

Personally I find most chemicals do a similar job.

Would a powdered MS from one supplier not be much the same stuff as that from another supplier?

[john martin]

I use a few of Cleansmart's chemical and find them fine.

I find Orange X good on draft marks and is ph8 so good for wool.

Personally I find most chemicals do a similar job.

Would a powdered MS from one supplier not be much the same stuff as that from another supplier?

Probably , but you have define what a ' microsplitter ' is  .  And compare concentrations and dilution recommendations  which are as random as the guy making it all up in the first place .
yeah , anything with the orange terpene is usually good .

[tim handley]

used a fair bit of cleansmart stuff, orange x, rinse x, guard x,  hd micro splitter, their version of spm, cant remember the name,
always been good stuff, never had a problem with any of it..........,.,...  dont think any supplier would survive by selling crap cleaning solutions would they???

[garyhumphreys]

Never had any problems with Cleansmart chemicals.
Don't know why anyone would describe them as poop?

[Mike Halliday]

I would guess there are very few wholesale manufactures of cleaning chemicals coupled with the fact that few suppliers have the ability to make thier own chemicals in bulk leads me to believe what you buy from Cleansmart is very similar to what you buy from any other supplier.

[sean oregan]

I have and still use some of their stuff good people at cleansmart

[Deep Cleaning Solutions]

Have used a few of they're chems when I was in a experimental mood. Fair to say I quickly went back to using prochem!

[Elfyn]

I have used and still use some cleansmart stuff it is ok on par with solutions.
Neither matt (cleansmart) or Nick (solutions) have there own chemical plant they buy in probably from same manufacturers and name it what they like.

Sean, you are very wrong.

[sean oregan]

I have used and still use some cleansmart stuff it is ok on par with solutions.
Neither matt (cleansmart) or Nick (solutions) have there own chemical plant they buy in probably from same manufacturers and name it what they like.

Sean, you are very wrong.

Am I, how? If I am I will stand corrected.

[JandS]

According to the other forum you are.

[sean oregan]

According to other forum that I can't get onto anymore.  Well obviously Nick and co. Watch what is said on here why can't they put me right on it? Instead of just locking me out!!
Maybe he didn't want anyone to know that but it don't take a genius to work it out.
Please correct me if I am wrong!!!

[sean oregan]

I have removed post as it has seriously offended someone, just to clarify my comment was not intended to offend anybody. So I am sorry if it did.
This is the responce given on ct

A shame some people don’t check facts before making statements regarding Solution and my business. We both formulate and bottle in Cornwall and have an offsite facility and Partner for our larger bespoke bottling and Solutions unique formulations. We export to 9 different countries around the world. Of our unique product range only Digrain Insectaclear is not our product, the rest of the range are our own, owned, unique formulations.
We have access to 30 plus commercial chemists and have an involvement with two research and development laboratories, one in the UK and one Europe, and are constantly developing new, additional products for our range.

[Billy Russell]

I have removed post as it has seriously offended someone, just to clarify my comment was not intended to offend anybody. So I am sorry if it did.
This is the responce given on ct

A shame some people don’t check facts before making statements regarding Solution and my business. We both formulate and bottle in Cornwall and have an offsite facility and Partner for our larger bespoke bottling and Solutions unique formulations. We export to 9 different countries around the world. Of our unique product range only Digrain Insectaclear is not our product, the rest of the range are our own, owned, unique formulations.
We have access to 30 plus commercial chemists and have an involvement with two research and development laboratories, one in the UK and one Europe, and are constantly developing new, additional products for our range.

Brilliant hahaha

[john martin]

omg they can make it sound so technical and hi-tech   
really all they do is dilute things  ,  so the bespoke bottling formulation area , im picturing the back of a commercial unit ... lots of5liter pastic containers lined up  ...  put a dash of colloidal concentrate  into each and stick in a water hose and fill them up ... distilled water ... nah , connect the hose to the toilet sink it'll be fine 
now lets make some micro splitter ... like up more plastic cans ... put a quick tablespoon of phosphate into each ... hose pipe , stick on sticker .
How bout a new formula ...  mix a couple of the concentrates or add a bit of deodorizer and hey its a unique new product , 
basically its about filling cans with water and sticking labels on  .

cleansmart do the same im sure , of get an external company to do it .

[tim handley]

you been banned as well Sean??   join the club, second time for me, not to  worry......
dont know why, dont care..................  pathetic!!!

[Elfyn]

I have used and still use some cleansmart stuff it is ok on par with solutions.
Neither matt (cleansmart) or Nick (solutions) have there own chemical plant they buy in probably from same manufacturers and name it what they like.

Sean, you are very wrong.

Am I, how? If I am I will stand corrected.

Yes, Sean, you are.
Nothing to do with "other forums" - I've seen it for myself.
So, stand yourself corrected.