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Clever Forum Name

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #80 on: November 18, 2015, 06:30:29 pm »
Today I offered a 24 minute guarantee  ;D

SB Cleaning

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #81 on: November 18, 2015, 06:31:40 pm »
Today I offered a 24 minute guarantee  ;D
;D ;D

windowswashed

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #82 on: November 18, 2015, 06:33:07 pm »
I ain't sitting in a van waiting for rain to stop. Horrendous winds first thing this morning, didn't stop me working, then the winds eased but it started raining, continued working, then the rain eased later ion the afternoon and I finished the day out working until 4pm and went home a happy chappy. It has been horrible mixture of strong or gusty winds and rain for the past three weeks in the south west and with the exception of four working days I've perservered as I have a mortgage on my own to pay along with 2 vans and all the other bills so  just earning enough to pay bills and put some aside for emergencies. Don't believe in sitting on my backside praying for decent weather as it ain't happening

Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #83 on: November 18, 2015, 06:37:28 pm »
The thing is that if & when you employ someone, you just have to carry on. If it's hammering it down, sit it out in the van, but that's an extremely rare occurrence here. Perhaps twice this year? 

The other thing to bear in mind is that if you plan to employ, or God forbid  work full time and have a full round (5 days a week 8:30-4  then you have to carry on. It's not about "hand to mouth" as some suggest, it's about maximising your income.

Whatever you think, people really don't complain and if they do, give them a guarantee. If they still aren't happy either dump or skip.

Another desperado  ;D

Walter Mitty

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #84 on: November 18, 2015, 06:40:55 pm »
From Callous Bank Ltd.

Dear Mr Mitty.
Why haven't you paid your mortgagew this month.

REPLY:  I'm very sorry but I was too scared of my customers to work.  Can I pay you double next month please?

sunshine windows

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #85 on: November 18, 2015, 06:41:14 pm »
Managed to get all my work done today, plus the 2 I never got round to doing yesterday  ;D
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

martin hulstone

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #86 on: November 18, 2015, 06:45:25 pm »
From Callous Bank Ltd.

Dear Mr Mitty.
Why haven't you paid your mortgagew this month.

REPLY:  I'm very sorry but I was too scared of my customers to work.  Can I pay you double next month please?
Or alternatively, charge the right price and be prepared for bad weather(save all the money you get from extras in the summer) and that way you dont have to worry about taking off days in really bad weather!
Also i wish people would not come on a forum telling us how much they earn ::)roll

martin hulstone

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #87 on: November 18, 2015, 06:47:15 pm »
Customer, are you working today in this?
windie, yes or i wont earn 40 45k and take 5 star holidays ::)roll

8weekly

Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #88 on: November 18, 2015, 06:47:50 pm »
From Callous Bank Ltd.

Dear Mr Mitty.
Why haven't you paid your mortgagew this month.

REPLY:  I'm very sorry but I was too scared of my customers to work.  Can I pay you double next month please?
Or alternatively, charge the right price and be prepared for bad weather(save all the money you get from extras in the summer) and that way you dont have to worry about taking off days in really bad weather!
Also i wish people would not come on a forum telling us how much they earn ::)roll
Think you'll find Dazmond was joking. He earns at least double that.   ;D

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #89 on: November 18, 2015, 06:56:50 pm »
IMO there is no need to work in the rain, and, in fact, there's more to be gained by not working in the rain than there is by carrying on regardless.
Many people just look at the loss of earnings from not working in the rain.
When starting my business up I decided that I was not going to work in any sort of wet and blustery weather. (also strong winds on dry days in summer blowing dust around when wfp ) As a customer of a window cleaner before starting my own business, I would of not been happy to pay for windows cleaned in the rain, so why clean my customers?
How has this worked out for me?
Well 99% of our work is domestic and verbally agreed with the house holder to be cleaned every 4 weeks, this means 13 cleans a year.  We never hit 13 cleans, our average across the business is 12 cleans per year.  (customers NEVER complains if we are late, in fact 99% don't even notice or are even bothered)
So whats the up side to not cleaning in the rain??  It needs to be pretty good as we have lost 1  clean in the year on all our domestic customers.
So what is it?
BUSINESS GROWTH
IMO, if you are wanting to build the ultimate one/two man round, top prices, no messers, etc etc, then cleaning in the rain is fine. It's fine because you are not looking for every possible customer you can get in your area, you are only needing enough for you and maybe a helper or partner.
BUT, if you are wanting to build a large business and build it QUICKLY, one that you can manage off the tools and put your name too it, then customer service HAS too come before your own personal earnings, and, IMO, cleaning in the rain falls short on providing a quality, value for money service. Call me Steve Jobs (read the book and you will know), but that's just the way I am.
For the past few years we have asked every new customer for feed back after the first clean and what they expect from us. YOU WOULD BE AMAZED at what customers expect, AND, this is the most important bit of my novel I'm writing here, the reasons why they have changed window cleaner or not had one for a while. AMAZED. Number 2 on our list of reasons for cancelling a window cleaning service is having them cleaned in the rain.

Hope these comments help if you are reading this and trying to decide whether to clean or not to clean in the rain.


   

   

SB Cleaning

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #90 on: November 18, 2015, 06:58:23 pm »
From Callous Bank Ltd.

Dear Mr Mitty.
Why haven't you paid your mortgagew this month.

REPLY:  I'm very sorry but I was too scared of my customers to work.  Can I pay you double next month please?
Or alternatively, charge the right price and be prepared for bad weather(save all the money you get from extras in the summer) and that way you dont have to worry about taking off days in really bad weather!
Also i wish people would not come on a forum telling us how much they earn ::)roll
You know where the door is if you don't like it ::)roll

Clever Forum Name

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #91 on: November 18, 2015, 07:07:20 pm »
So when a customer sells their house and moves 150 miles away. Really it's because they didn't want the windows cleaned in the rain but they didn't want to tell me lol.

I have never ever had a customer turn round to me and say we sacked our last cleaner Coz he cleaned in the rain.

Still waiting to loose my first customer from cleaning in the rain.

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #92 on: November 18, 2015, 07:09:58 pm »
Maybe you don't have any decent competition around your neck of the woods number 23??  ;)

Clever Forum Name

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #93 on: November 18, 2015, 07:10:57 pm »
Ain't got a clue. 500 customers and closed the books two months ago.

Only work I take on is in the same street or next door to other houses.

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #94 on: November 18, 2015, 07:14:33 pm »
Most windies cant be bothered doing any form of market research other than finding out what there competition charges. We find out what customers want, then give them that, then they tell there friends what we do then we give them what they want, then they tell there friends and we give them what they want, so on and so on.

SeanK

Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #95 on: November 18, 2015, 07:17:31 pm »
im not gonna earn 40-45k a year having a day off every time its bad weather! :)

granted the weathers been a bit crap lately but ive only had 2 afternoons off(today and yesterday) so im only a day behind which ill easily catch up on by working this sat. :)

its looking workable for the rest of the week lads! :D

45k for working all weathers, I would need at least double that to get me out in the weather conditions we have had
this week.

Clever Forum Name

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #96 on: November 18, 2015, 07:19:38 pm »
Why over complicate things  ???

Customer wants Windows cleaned. They pay me.

I know you have a franchise thing going on so will be different.

All my spare time and money does elsewhere. Not back into window cleaning

SeanK

Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #97 on: November 18, 2015, 07:21:36 pm »
Ain't got a clue. 500 customers and closed the books two months ago.

Only work I take on is in the same street or next door to other houses.

500 customers between two vans what are you 2 weekly ?

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #98 on: November 18, 2015, 07:22:18 pm »
Ain't got a clue. 500 customers and closed the books two months ago.

Only work I take on is in the same street or next door to other houses.

Well done 23, seriously if you are full and happy then that's great. I stand by my comments though. We attract and clean 250 customers every 3  months at the moment, to achieve these figures you cannot turn down fussy customers.

Clever Forum Name

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Re: even i had to admit defeat today!
« Reply #99 on: November 18, 2015, 07:24:50 pm »
Ain't got a clue. 500 customers and closed the books two months ago.

Only work I take on is in the same street or next door to other houses.

500 customers between two vans what are you 2 weekly ?

Nope, nope and nope.