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john martin

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2015, 10:52:33 pm »
even vaguer that i anticipated   :o

Radek Jablonski

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2015, 11:17:07 pm »
I haven't read all the posts on here but by giving spotters out will this not mean carpets being cleaned less often?

I do lots of jobs that have relatively clean carpets with just an odd spot here and there.

Just thinking that if I'd given out spotters I'd not be called back as often ??? ???

Are you often called to the spotting jobs only? I am not, could count them on my fingers, per year.
Imagine, customer spiled something, cleaned it with your spotter and realized that surrounding the stain carpet is dirty, will not use the spotter on the full carpet will call you.
The true is that not many stains they will remove without extraction, they need you.

Radek Jablonski

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2015, 11:23:12 pm »
Can you simply do your own spotters using any microsplitter like spm, pure clean etc?

Yes , mix up your microsplitter , order 500ml spray bottles, I pay 67pence  and buy 200 at a time, labels are printed by my signwriter ,under a pound each including labour to fill them.

Cheers
Will do that.
Mpower is much much better as a spotter, but mirosplitter as a free spotter is good enough.
  Hi Radek, yes i would agree spotters based on colloidal chemistry would be more effective, just imagine how many 250ml ready to use spray bottles you could produce from a 5 liter concentrate of mpower, giving one out to new customers would yield a great return and bet would guarantee plenty of new clients for you in the future.  Tadgh

Ha, how will I now whats dilition rates.
Nick sells Mpower spotter and mpower carpet cleaner. I like the first one but totally dislike diluted 1:100 mpower carpet cleaner. Probably same stuff, and probably carpet cleaner is a concentrate. Diluted too much for carpets is a poo, not much diluted will be too expensive probably.

Tadgh O Shea

Re: free spotters......
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2015, 11:43:18 pm »
Can you simply do your own spotters using any microsplitter like spm, pure clean etc?

Yes , mix up your microsplitter , order 500ml spray bottles, I pay 67pence  and buy 200 at a time, labels are printed by my signwriter ,under a pound each including labour to fill them.

Cheers
Will do that.
Mpower is much much better as a spotter, but mirosplitter as a free spotter is good enough.
  Hi Radek, yes i would agree spotters based on colloidal chemistry would be more effective, just imagine how many 250ml ready to use spray bottles you could produce from a 5 liter concentrate of mpower, giving one out to new customers would yield a great return and bet would guarantee plenty of new clients for you in the future.  Tadgh

Ha, how will I now whats dilition rates.
Nick sells Mpower spotter and mpower carpet cleaner. I like the first one but totally dislike diluted 1:100 mpower carpet cleaner. Probably same stuff, and probably carpet cleaner is a concentrate. Diluted too much for carpets is a poo, not much diluted will be too expensive probably.
Hi Radek, Mpower concentrate is diluted 120-1 as a ready to use cleaning solution, so if you were diluting it say 20-1 as a ready to use spot and stain remover, 5 liters at 20-1 would produce 105 liters which would produce 420 x 250ml trigger spray bottles of spot and stain remover which would make them very cost effective as you could write off the cost of them as part of your marketing budget. Tadgh

Radek Jablonski

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2015, 07:56:30 am »
Will make a bottle like that and will try.
For me, geting stickers and botles from poland would not exceed about 60-70cents each spotter.

John Kelly

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2015, 09:24:55 am »
The product in spotters has little bearing on the price it is actually the time producing them which makes up the bulk of the cost. We actually put the labels on as well not just supply them in sheets.
When giving free chemicals away you also have to consider what liability you are opening yourself up too. By giving away a Microsplitter, which works, there is very little risk imparted by you because if a child was to get their hands on it and drink it it would do them no harm.
If you were to leave them a harsher chemical containing solvents lets say, then the the consequences could be a lot worse. You would also have to be covered under your liability insurance to supply chemicals which isn't standard and needs to be added to your policy.
Then we had the clown a few years back who left their customer some Champion in a Coke bottle.  Her 4 year old son drank it and was seriously ill.

Hilton

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2015, 10:45:22 am »
Have to agree what a waste of time making up your own when you can buy them already prepared and at very little cost.

Crazy!

Radek Jablonski

  • Posts: 956
Re: free spotters......
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2015, 09:22:08 pm »
Hilton. It depends how much your own gonna cost. If I do it myself then it would be 4 times cheaper with nicer stickers :)
The price Jason pays makes not much saving.

clayton taylor

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2015, 09:26:51 pm »
folks, as a marketing tool, how highly do you rate giving away free spotters?????
i know you can sell them as well, but purely as a giveaway....do they work????

I think it is a very good idea. Where would you get them at that price?. I'm based in Lancashire and if you don't mind telling me I would appreciate it.

scott johns

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2015, 10:52:43 pm »
great point john ,why wouldnt you just not buy the spotters ready made it would take ages to do them yourself.
and as john said you are putting your company at risk leave it to the companies that specialise in these
products. after all you should be making enough money cleaning to budget for these extras

scott johns

  • Posts: 309
Re: free spotters......
« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2015, 10:55:18 pm »
sorry clayton many companies supply these spotters just choose a local 1 neariest to you just
make sure there safe we use eco spotters

clayton taylor

  • Posts: 55
Re: free spotters......
« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2015, 12:55:40 pm »
sorry clayton many companies supply these spotters just choose a local 1 neariest to you just
make sure there safe we use eco spotters

Cheers I've looked locally and they all seem to be expensive.  We also give a4 calendars out with our details taking half the page and they love them. When we go back it is always hung up with pride lol. We use fair print on eBay which is really cheap.

jasonl

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2015, 02:33:36 pm »
Have to agree what a waste of time making up your own when you can buy them already prepared and at very little cost.

Crazy!

So I pay 80 pence including labour to make my own , vs £1.89 plus vat to buy them in, not at all crazy, just prudent and sensible, powdered microsplitter has no risk were a customer to ingest it , 1001 etc are far more likely to harm people , they do not hold insurance, customers are responsible.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Radek Jablonski

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2015, 06:15:57 pm »
Oh sorry Jason, my misunderstanding, I though you pay under a pound just for one sticker :)
Yes, thats worth a play.

Bob Allen

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2015, 10:26:43 pm »
I agree with Wayne why would give people spotters, isn't that our job to clean their carpets
by all means leave them a pen, fridge magnet etc
They shouldn't need reminding how good you are if you done a great job in the first place
Bob Allen

scott johns

  • Posts: 309
Re: free spotters......
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2015, 09:14:01 am »
nobody looks at pens they just go on the side useful I agree but not as useful as a spotter there is more client value in
giving them something that reminds them of you. can you remember someone from 2 years ago ? the spotter works
brilliant as my clients always comment, when it runs out they phone up and either book a job or want to buy a spotter
win win win

Tadgh O Shea

Re: free spotters......
« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2015, 11:43:10 am »
nobody looks at pens they just go on the side useful I agree but not as useful as a spotter there is more client value in
giving them something that reminds them of you. can you remember someone from 2 years ago ? the spotter works
brilliant as my clients always comment, when it runs out they phone up and either book a job or want to buy a spotter
win win win
Totally agree Scott, i have been giving bottles of spot and stain remover for years to clients who have come back with amazing stories on all sorts of problems our little bottle has sorted out for them.
The return on investment i honestly could not calculate but i know it has been tremendous since we started this many years ago now. Tadgh

Phil @ Extreme Clean

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2015, 04:32:29 pm »
I leave all my customers a 1ltr bottle of unbelievable they cost me just under £4 each I put a sticker on bottle with all my details on. I tell them to bin all of the shelf harsh chems and explain problems they can make using them they love it and always say what do I owe you for this I say nothing it's a thankyou from me to you and also to stop you using crap etc.
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john martin

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Re: free spotters......
« Reply #58 on: November 23, 2015, 10:37:15 pm »
I leave all my customers a 1ltr bottle of unbelievable they cost me just under £4 each I put a sticker on bottle with all my details on. I tell them to bin all of the shelf harsh chems and explain problems they can make using them they love it and always say what do I owe you for this I say nothing it's a thankyou from me to you and also to stop you using crap etc.

'  unbelievable  '   ? is that M-power or microsplitter

Mike Halliday

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