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laurabird

  • Posts: 40
travel Time for cleaners
« on: November 10, 2015, 09:59:20 pm »
Hi All
A M ember of the team tells me I must pay them travel time in between jobs ?
Anyone shed some light on this

Thank you

David Deer

Re: travel Time for cleaners
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2015, 05:31:35 pm »
If you have employees that are travelling between cleaning locations you need to have a company policy for paying travel time. Once you decide on your policy, add it to your employee manual, and then go over it with each employee. Don't let your employees tell YOU how they expect to be paid for travelling.

    The first thing to keep in mind is that you are not required to pay travel time for the employee's time spent travelling from home to work and from work to home, unless they travel to a different location every day. You are however, required to pay your employees for any travel time between jobs. If your employees are allowed to take a lunch break during the day, you will need to create a policy as to whether they will be paid for this personal time.

    Keep your policy simple and consistent for all employees. Travel time adds up, so the easiest system is to pay them from your location and job-to-job as soon as they're on the clock. If you introduce a separate payment system for travel and one for cleaning you are opening the door to a bookkeeping nightmare.

    Know the mileage and time your employees should be travelling. Either do your own tracking of the time it takes to travel between homes or use a mapping tool like www.mapquest.com. Just keep in mind that estimated travel time on Mapquest may be wrong depending on traffic conditions. You could also invest in GPS devices to track travel.

    Plan your employees' routes instead of letting them decide which route to take. Not all will be efficient with their time and may take a longer route than necessary.

    Consider cleaning in teams of two or even single maids in order to keep travel time to a minimum. One or two people take longer to clean a home than a group of 3 or 4 people, so they won't be travelling to as many homes each day. When you have 3 or 4 people travelling together to several homes a day you have to pay each one for riding in the vehicle.
The EU ruling on travel time only applies if the employee is travelling to clients different locations at the start of each day where there is no fixed starting point.
The ruling states: “The journeys of the workers to the customers their employer designates is a necessary means of providing their technical services at the premises of those customers. Not taking those journeys into account would enable a company to claim that only the time spent carrying out the activity of cleaning falls within the concept of working time, which would distort that concept and jeopardise the objective of protecting the safety and health of workers.”


It adds: “The court takes the view that the workers are at the employer’s disposal for the time of the journeys. During those journeys, the workers act on the instructions of the employer, who may change the order of the customers or cancel or add an appointment… The court considers the workers to be working during the journeys.”


laurabird

  • Posts: 40
Re: travel Time for cleaners
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2015, 07:17:57 pm »
Thank you for your information very helpfull

Stoots

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Re: travel Time for cleaners
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2015, 09:06:20 pm »
i dont employ but its fairly obvious to me you pay them for anything they do in the hours they are at work surely whether thats cleaning, travelling or knocking one out in the bogs?

i.e 9-5 they are paid for the hours minus any breaks

daft question imo

Michelle H

  • Posts: 19
Re: travel Time for cleaners
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015, 03:54:13 am »
No it is not a daft question.

We had this issue crop up. I worked for a company who never paided traveling time and as this was my first job were I was traveling too and from jobs, I never really thought about it. All my jobs before hand I had been in one place so was paid for the hours I worked. It was only when I set up my own cleaning business that this came to light.

I know now that the company I worked for STILL don't pay traveling time. What I did was google earth each trip my staff will be taking each day and found a general amount of time they would be taking each day. I gave them all sheets to record time they arrived and left plus the amount of time they are taking between each client. On average it only amounts to about one to two hours extra per week on top of the amount of hours they are at clients.

Just try to keep your jobs together. We work a number of towns, so we spend one day in each town best we can.

laurabird

  • Posts: 40
Re: travel Time for cleaners
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2015, 09:28:13 pm »
Thanks for your valued comments a fair proportion of jobs are with letting Agents I have always let the staff round up the job in to total Man hours however this will have to stop if we go down the route of travel Time