[JackieW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2ZJZ7lFdv8

Has anyone got feedback on doing this conversion on a Gardiner  Extreme pole?

I notice that it's recommended to cut about 90mm off the bottom of section 1 to allow the valve to sit inside the closed pole.

On a Gardiner Extreme pole with the metal banding on the clamping section that would only leave about 20mm of the wider section beneath the clamp.

Like the idea but not sure it would be safe on an Extreme.

Standard SLX with the full diameter all the way wouldn't be a problem I think.

[richard groves]

I don't have an extreme, but if I could justify the cost of one I would definately not want to go hacking bits off it, and what about voiding its warranty ?

[Smurf]

Can't say I would like to go hacking about an extreme pole but they do look good
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Fed-Pole-Tubeless-Conversion-Kit-Any-pole-/171986071892?hash=item280b2b3154:g:hokAAOSwYHxWMftp

Ex-ceed Innovation conversion kit for gardiner poles.
The benefits over standard water fed poles, below:

For more info please see videos at: http://ex-ceedinnovation.co.uk/

1) No hose attached means easy pole switch over.
2) No need to coil up pole hoses, when putting poles away.
3) Take off/add on sections without the need of threading hose through pole sections.
4) No hose attached means hassle free cleaning of pole sections.
5) Hose fittings lasting 4 to 5 times longer as they are concealed.
6) No hose attached means tidier pole storage.
7) No hose attached means a dry vehicle floor.

All you will need to convert your pole to tubeless is some standard 8mm OD pole hose. A 6mm rectus 21 female and 6mm rectus male hose tail.

Kit Includes
1 X Sleeve Ejector
3 X O-Clips
1 X Pole Bung
1 X Hose Stay
1 X Hose Barb (8mm to 6mm)

The only thing it don't mention in the fleebay listing is hack sawing the pole...I wonder why that is? 

[steven jones]

Can't say I would like to go hacking about an extreme pole but they do look good
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Fed-Pole-Tubeless-Conversion-Kit-Any-pole-/171986071892?hash=item280b2b3154:g:hokAAOSwYHxWMftp

Ex-ceed Innovation conversion kit for gardiner poles.
The benefits over standard water fed poles, below:

For more info please see videos at: http://ex-ceedinnovation.co.uk/

1) No hose attached means easy pole switch over.
2) No need to coil up pole hoses, when putting poles away.
3) Take off/add on sections without the need of threading hose through pole sections.
4) No hose attached means hassle free cleaning of pole sections.
5) Hose fittings lasting 4 to 5 times longer as they are concealed.
6) No hose attached means tidier pole storage.
7) No hose attached means a dry vehicle floor.

All you will need to convert your pole to tubeless is some standard 8mm OD pole hose. A 6mm rectus 21 female and 6mm rectus male hose tail.

Kit Includes
1 X Sleeve Ejector
3 X O-Clips
1 X Pole Bung
1 X Hose Stay
1 X Hose Barb (8mm to 6mm)

The only thing it don't mention in the fleebay listing is hack sawing the pole...I wonder why that is? 
[/quote} You dont need to cut the xtreme pole, for it to work
Steven.

[steven jones]

If you dont feel confident i can fit the kit to the poles

You dont need to cut the xtreme pole, for it to work

Steve,

[s.w.c]

If it's not broke dont try an fix it, lol     another gimmick on the market, ive used extreme from the start only thing different I done was 6mm od tubing, why on earth would you mess with perfection, just over complicating it adding more bits just to go wrong, idea has been around for years if it was anygood it would be standard in today equipment,  well have fun messing around but know when to stop.

[steven jones]

Its not a gimmick, it has cost affective and convenient benefits.

I do not make useless or pointless products, i was a wfp user for years, one of the first around in fact, so i know my stuff.

Steven.

[richard groves]

I like the idea Steven , in fact I use it already albeit my own diy version on a supermax 40 .
Good that you answered op's question about the extreme. Shortening an already fragile pole ( don't shoot me ciu , only going by forum posts ) that has a specific clamping banded area would not be a good idea.
Does your conversion kit work with the uni valve ? I'd buy both if it did.

[tlwcs]

If it's not broke dont try an fix it, lol     another gimmick on the market, ive used extreme from the start only thing different I done was 6mm od tubing, why on earth would you mess with perfection, just over complicating it adding more bits just to go wrong, idea has been around for years if it was anygood it would be standard in today equipment,  well have fun messing around but know when to stop.

I changed to this last Christmas on one pole, within a week all 3 poles had this gimmick
HTH
Tony

[richard groves]

If it's not broke dont try an fix it, lol     another gimmick on the market, ive used extreme from the start only thing different I done was 6mm od tubing, why on earth would you mess with perfection, just over complicating it adding more bits just to go wrong, idea has been around for years if it was anygood it would be standard in today equipment,  well have fun messing around but know when to stop.

I changed to this last Christmas on one pole, within a week all 3 poles had this gimmick
HTH
Tony

This gimmick means I no longer have to waste money on 3 poles instead of one.

[Smurf]

If you dont feel confident i can fit the kit to the poles

You dont need to cut the xtreme pole, for it to work

Steve,

Thats good to know 

[JackieW]

Thanks Steven.
 But won't the valve protrude out of the bottom of the assembled pole if section 1 isn't cut to some degree?

As regards s.w.c. saying ''If it's not broke dont try an fix it, lol'' I assume that means that no further improvements can ever be made to the Extreme pole.

Mr Gardiner had better  cancel his new range of X3 Extremes then, and stick to his old stock.

[Smurf]

Agree about adding sections as would be easy to do. Likewise you could use the pole for other uses too if you wanted like say a gutter cam pole are even dare I say it use it as a trad pole when needed without having to faff about with a hose fitted on the pole already. That was some of the main reasons why for a long time ran the pole hose on the outside of my poles

Does that qualify me for a free kit to try Steve (including the rectus fittings) 

[steven jones]

"But won't the valve protrude out of the bottom of the assembled pole if section 1 isn't cut to some degree?"

The extreme pole sections are stepped and dont come level at the base, so no need to trim the pole.

But will need to trim section no one if using slx or clx.

Steven

[ray mck]

Hi Steve .how much do you charge to fit  1 clx and 1 slx

[steven jones]

Hi Ray,

The kit is £45 for one hose reel,(Biggest cost) but that will rig up to as many poles as you like.

Then i charge £15 per pole to convert

If you send the poles to me via UK Mail, it will cost you £12

But really it is very easy to do!

[Don Kee]

Like the look of it to be honest, may try it on one of the pole to see how get on with it

Can I ask why you need to cut off 90mm of the pole section?

[richard groves]

Does your conversion kit work with the uni valve ?

[richard groves]

Extend section one from the clamp by 90 mm, wrap a few turns of electrical tape around the pole to act a stopper, no need to cut pole if you change your mind but collapsed length will be 90 mm longer 

[s.w.c]

Its not a gimmick, it has cost affective and convenient benefits.

I do not make useless or pointless products, i was a wfp user for years, one of the first around in fact, so i know my stuff.

Steven.

ok so you know everything about waterfed, so I must be a noddy then, alex got new pole coming then, well I never knew that in noddy land, so when I look back at modified bits I done over last 14 years I never learnt a thing an help alex for many years but he never listen because I didnt know a thing, ok I must not be the only one in noddy land then,

interestingly I had some useless ideas over the years but also the odd good one, 14 years of modified water fed pole parts even designed my own tank an baffle design,  I also know a little about extreme pole too still ha b e prototype sections, mmmm but im a noddy and no one listened to me,
 So you invent an make your own bits then steve, so your telling me your perfect an never made a mistake or two or even waisted time on the odd thing that didn't work, then I take my hat off to you and run around in circles saying you live in noddy land too.lol lol