[steven jones]

No, i made loads of evolutionary changes to my products, has customers revealed what i did not see.

Hence the reason for simplicity, like tubeless kit. and new uni-valve.

Steven.

[s.w.c]

Steve ive been around for a few years when mr brimble was at it and peter an alex with maver poles as first superlite an bentley brushes, I use a few forums so know me as smithy or s.w.c, but not heard of you till now, you cant teach a old dog new tricks. Lol

[steven jones]

Well thanks for your advice, Aqua-dapter as a product as been very successful with global distribution, which makes me confident with our products.

The new uni-valve and tubeless kit is even more simple and fool proof that give us even more confidence.

Our products are vigorously tested like this, prototype uni-valve, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc3gdWy5tjA

So if you have got experience, good, but so have i.

Steve.

[KS Cleaning]

Its not a gimmick, it has cost affective and convenient benefits.

I do not make useless or pointless products, i was a wfp user for years, one of the first around in fact, so i know my stuff.

Steven.

ok so you know everything about waterfed, so I must be a noddy then, alex got new pole coming then, well I never knew that in noddy land, so when I look back at modified bits I done over last 14 years I never learnt a thing an help alex for many years but he never listen because I didnt know a thing, ok I must not be the only one in noddy land then,

interestingly I had some useless ideas over the years but also the odd good one, 14 years of modified water fed pole parts even designed my own tank an baffle design,  I also know a little about extreme pole too still ha b e prototype sections, mmmm but im a noddy and no one listened to me,
 So you invent an make your own bits then steve, so your telling me your perfect an never made a mistake or two or even waisted time on the odd thing that didn't work, then I take my hat off to you and run around in circles saying you live in noddy land too.lol lol

Who rattled you're cage?

[ray mck]

I think he's been in that cage for ? 14 years

[Tadgh O Shea]

introducing innovation to shiners is a great sounding board indeed as you will achieve all the feedback you will ever require, some innovator's can handle it better than others  whether the feedback is positive or negative, of course the example i am going to use is little waffle weave glass cloths which we sell 100s of every month (even without a website believe it or not and yes most guys on here won't believe that) i have to say i take it all in good spirit, thats the slagging you have to live with and if you can't just don't bother promoting your ideas on the shiners section, i have other innovations that we did not develop but am looking forward to sharing them on this section and will enjoy the banter that they will generate, and even already guys on here are thinking poo here we go again.

[JackieW]

s.w.c
''ok so you know everything about waterfed''            

I'm still looking to find where Steven said he knows everything about waterfed, could you point that bit out please,


 ''So you invent an make your own bits then steve, so your telling me your perfect an never made a mistake or two''

What an odd conclusion to come to. Someone comes up with an idea and puts it into production and that automatically means that what they are really saying is that they are perfect and never make a mistake?  As you say, lol, lol.

''so I must be a noddy then''

[s.w.c]

Steve I never liked the aqua adapter an stated that to them at the start, I still see threads aqua adapter issues, me personally dont see you thing taking off like you think, but you seem to be very inventory which I appreciate but sometimes simple is a key, your product is going to be marmite one, not everyone will like it and at first negative response you spit your dummy out, criticism will only strive you to further things if you read into positive part of criticism,  but please sharpen those blunt snips, lol

[steven jones]

The univalve is replacing the aqua-dapter as the problems associated with aqua-dapter have been removed by univalve.

Customer feedback is the key.

Steven,

[tlwcs]

Steve ive been around for a few years when mr brimble was at it and peter an alex with maver poles as first superlite an bentley brushes, I use a few forums so know me as smithy or s.w.c, but not heard of you till now, you cant teach a old dog new tricks. Lol

Do you know who he is now?
Has an old dog learnt a new trick                  lol

[Smurf]

Oh that brings back memories when Steve brought out the first aquadaptor as you had to take a hacksaw to your poles to fit that too if I remember right. He got loads of stick online because of that then the mk2 aquadaptor was born.  That just goes to show Steve does listen to people. Anyway back on topic as having to shorten the top section of poles to fit that kit to convert other make poles I would have thought is a very big stumbling block for many with newish poles. 

[G & M]

Personally I don't get the slagging off. I have bought several aqua dapters and I love them even if they weren't perfect. They were a very innovative product  at the time.
It seems to me that if a product is good it will last if not it will soon be forgotten. Either way I look forward to seeing new products/ ideas on here and that is the main reason I come on here, not to listen to people bitching and knocking other people for their ideas.

[Mike #1]

Well someone paid £28.99 inc delivery  for it and it didn't have the rectus fittings  . I wonder if the WCW one will fit an Xtreme  without any hacksawing as I aint damaging a 2 week old pole .

[Alex Gardiner]

Well someone paid £28.99 inc delivery  for it and it didn't have the rectus fittings  . I wonder if the WCW one will fit an Xtreme  without any hacksawing as I aint damaging a 2 week old pole .

If you really want to have a 'tubeless' Xtreme without hacksawing it (which would invalidate any pole warranty) then drop me an email. Many of our clients over the years have DIY converted their poles to work with them in this way. One of my local friends has worked like this for the last 12 years. One of our clients has previously posted this conversion on CIU (I will try and find his post), but if you email me I can email back a copy of what he does. This method would involve no altering of the pole other than the end-cap.

[steven jones]

Well someone paid £28.99 inc delivery  for it and it didn't have the rectus fittings  . I wonder if the WCW one will fit an Xtreme  without any hacksawing as I aint damaging a 2 week old pole .

Hi Mike,
I dont think you will need to cut your pole down, as i believe the extreme range are stepped sections (Not level at the base)
Also because an extreme pole has only 3 clamping points this also is a concern as if you remove  part of the section, you will remove part of the clamping point.

Just to add that Facelift  have modified there top sections, and made them shorter than the other sections to accommodate
Tubeless systems, which does not need the customer to do this.

The best way  to go about  is try the above suggestion without cutting  the section.
Steven.

[Mike #1]

Well someone paid £28.99 inc delivery  for it and it didn't have the rectus fittings  . I wonder if the WCW one will fit an Xtreme  without any hacksawing as I aint damaging a 2 week old pole .

If you really want to have a 'tubeless' Xtreme without hacksawing it (which would invalidate any pole warranty) then drop me an email. Many of our clients over the years have DIY converted their poles to work with them in this way. One of my local friends has worked like this for the last 12 years. One of our clients has previously posted this conversion on CIU (I will try and find his post), but if you email me I can email back a copy of what he does. This method would involve no altering of the pole other than the end-cap.

Alex thanks for that shall I contact you via the website .

[s.w.c]

I wwould stick to my extreme with carbon gooseneck with light 6mm soft tubing all day long, simple standard reliable,

[Lee GLS]

I think the tubeless conversion is a very good mod. It mead the pole hose gets wiped every time the hose is wound in, it stops the hose getting tangled up in the back of the van, and protects the fittings. Mine has been fitted to my pole for nearly a year and it is still using the original rectus fitting it was supplied with and is not leaking or jamming up.

[SeanK]

I think the tubeless conversion is a very good mod. It mead the pole hose gets wiped every time the hose is wound in, it stops the hose getting tangled up in the back of the van, and protects the fittings. Mine has been fitted to my pole for nearly a year and it is still using the original rectus fitting it was supplied with and is not leaking or jamming up.

Unless you have a Citroen Dispatch with the poles in racks above the cab, you then get the water that's still in the hose dripping
onto your head and seats.

[Mike #1]

Lee that is very good to know i am changing things around now so defo want to convert .