[Smurf]

Just wondering how do you get to those awkward end leaking gutter joints to repair when the only best option using ladders is set them on the corner of a building as a lot of the time the downpipe is in the way to use a cheapo v standoff or risking life & limb trying?

[Smurf]

Just thought I would share how to reach the roofline on corners without risking life & limb using unstable ladders, over reaching or tile walking. In this example shown the right joint on the downspout was leaking  badly which was due to a perished seal so was replaced with  a new downspout.

If you are into roofline work then I would recommend a Ladder Max Multi Pro corner standoff as you never know when you’re going to need it. Not available in the UK though so you will have to import it from Ladder-Max directly http://www.buyladder-max.com/ladder-max-multi-pro-24-bundle/

Hope this helps anyone?

[Paul Wisdom]

Looks great. I take it they do ship to the UK then 

[Nameless Drudge]

Try laddesafe,my pal designed and manufactured them,www.ladder-safe.co.uk. i wont use a ladder without it.

[Nameless Drudge]

i will give him a ring now and see if he will offer a discount to ciu members,they are 74.95 delivered from the site currently.

DISCOUNT AVAILABLE TO CIU MEMBERS,63.00,MENTION CIU MEMBERSHIP WHEN ORDERING THROUGH THE WEBSITE,

[Smurf]

Looks great. I take it they do ship to the UK then 

Yes and U.K customs will charge £25 import duty for the pleasure too.

[Smurf]

i will give him a ring now and see if he will offer a discount to ciu members,they are 74.95 delivered from the site currently.

DISCOUNT AVAILABLE TO CIU MEMBERS,63.00,MENTION CIU MEMBERSHIP WHEN ORDERING THROUGH THE WEBSITE,

The chaps name is Mike Ryen and his direct contact email is mryen@buyladder-max.com

[Smurf]

Try laddesafe,my pal designed and manufactured them,www.ladder-safe.co.uk. i wont use a ladder without it.

Looks ok but too flimsy for my liking unlike the ladder max as the bars are made from steel pipe not aluminium so is a much stronger design.  I had a  bad experience once using something similar to that laddersafe standoff that collapse on me so no thanks. Also you would not be able to use it on corners with a downpipe in the way and don’t stand off much from the building so you could end up in an awkward position and over reaching.

For normal roofline work though I would say you can’t beat a microlite standoff that has been designed to rest on roof tiles and is class 1 rated too. The Downside you can’t really use a microlite standoff on corner of walls or on corners of hipped roofs so has limitations. Hence why I brought (imported) a ladder max multi pro corner standoff for the task.

[Nameless Drudge]

I can send you one to test but you have already dismissed a superior product without ever trying it!,I think you just like giving unjustified opinions.Are you just looking do get your post count up?I don,t come on here to talk the talk,I bother posting to help,try it yourself or say nowt.

[Nameless Drudge]

I was going to send you one  foc but I think quite reasonably you would keep it use it permanently and diss  it so as to avoid ever paying!  Disappointed to  read your cacababa

[Nameless Drudge]

Goliath could not bend or twist any part of it. Do  one,you are incorrect in your uneducated assumption ! Also it grabs tiles above the gutter line,your product you bought is perhaps comparable but I will wager not as good or as easily removable at any stage,what did you pay?
The more pressure applied the harder it grips due to its unique design.DEsigned tested and proven by a 62 year old ladder monkey that plans to stay alive.

[Nameless Drudge]

Challenge your Mike Ryan kit or ladder-safe.co.uk,any time.,you organise it with an independent adjudicator we agree on and prepare to  lose!

[Kev Martin]

Send me one to try please and if I like it I will not only buy one but could even look at stocking them

[Smurf]

I don't want to get into a slanging match as you obviously like your so say mates product but my opinion still stand I'm afraid from what I can see from just the pics on the website.

Yes it maybe compact and easy to use for certain jobs like you say but best don't throwing your toys out of your pram if someone disagrees with you.

Now say if that product has been independently tested and approved by HSE then that would make it a credible option for people buy and to use surely?

For instance there are a lot of so say ladder safety devices being manufacture and sold that have not been independently tested unlike the following which I prefer to use.

The Ankalad stabiliser bars on this ladder setup are approved by H&S Executive as a safe alternative to footing the ladder.
Also the microlite standoff is class 1 rated and approved too.

Not to mention the in the other pic posted earlier the Ladder Max Multi Pro "Meets or exceeds ANSI and OSHA standards for type 1AA ladders with a special duty rating of #375"

Need I say anymore?

I wish your pal luck in selling his new product all the same.

[Smurf]

Forgot to mention on your pals website there are pics showing the standoff being used on fascia boards which in the eye's of the HSE is a big NO NO as fascia boards can and do give way. Trust me I know 

I hope that I don't seem too pedantic but just saying its bad practice to do so but most don't give it a thought and is even more common practice by many is to rest ladders on guttering too which is downright daft.

[Nameless Drudge]

Agree with the points you make about HSE,how much though to  kit out with the footing stabilisers etc?,I still have the original ladder limpets!

[Nameless Drudge]

Send me one to try please and if I like it I will not only buy one but could even look at stocking them

I will get one sent and see what you make of it,I make nothing from these,there is no financial incentive for me.

[Nameless Drudge]

Forgot to mention on your pals website there are pics showing the standoff being used on fascia boards which in the eye's of the HSE is a big NO NO as fascia boards can and do give way. Trust me I know 

I hope that I don't seem too pedantic but just saying its bad practice to do so but most don't give it a thought and is even more common practice by many is to rest ladders on guttering too which is downright daft.

I should add the website is to be changed with a different chap marketing the product,it is still slightly letting the product down but hey ho the man is a window cleaner(trad) plus a small amount of wfp,he is not a business man trying to set the window cleaning world alight but by god it is good!

I do not need a lesson in the obvious but having re-read all posts I do believe I offered you the solution to your original post!

[Smurf]

Forgot to mention on your pals website there are pics showing the standoff being used on fascia boards which in the eye's of the HSE is a big NO NO as fascia boards can and do give way. Trust me I know 

I hope that I don't seem too pedantic but just saying its bad practice to do so but most don't give it a thought and is even more common practice by many is to rest ladders on guttering too which is downright daft.

I should add the website is to be changed with a different chap marketing the product,it is still slightly letting the product down but hey ho the man is a window cleaner(trad) plus a small amount of wfp,he is not a business man trying to set the window cleaning world alight but by god it is good!

I do not need a lesson in the obvious but having re-read all posts I do believe I offered you the solution to your original post!

Sorry but you just don't get it as your pals standoff will not work on a corner with a downpipe in the way now will it.
However this one does so convince me why would I want to by your mates instead as I brought a ladder Max Multi Pro corner standoff to overcome that particular issue and no other reason.

[Nameless Drudge]

It will grab both walls and possibly if not certain miss the downpipe,however,the inner  strap may even  offer further slide protection,by grabbing the downpipe,I am not telling you again! just get a scaffold and ignore my advice!