[stuart_clark]

Hello there folks
whilst cleaning a 100% acrylic two seater sofa a couple of weeks ago I had a spill of Formula 90 on a 80/20 Axminster carpet
I extracted as much as possable and placed a dry pod over the effected area, but a few days later the customer called to say a yellowish stain had appeared ! I went and viewed my Cock up to see if I could rectify the problem ! I sprayed down Chemspecs Browning treatment but that hasn't made any difference, so I am going back this afternoon and probably use a reducing agent and see if I can get a result !

Stuart

[Simon Gerrard]

Stuart,
Try 2 scoops of Prochem Fibrebuff and one scoop of oxibrite and add some fibre shampoo. If it's browning it should do the trick.

Simon

[Mike Gwilliam]

Also Prochem Browning Prescription. I've had more success with that than anything else but it has it's limitations with heavy browning. Eg it seems to deal with light cellulose browning caused by damp flooded carpets but not with more heavy browning.

[Paul Wisdom]

Do as Simon said its better than the browning prescriptions.

[Simon Gerrard]

This rug was used in a bathroom and so was really badly browned over a long period of time.
This picture was  taken after cleaning.


And  it was then treated with Fibrebuff and Oxibrite in a shampoo.


Beautiful

[stuart_clark]

Thanks for your advice Simon,
I went back to look at the carpet this afternoon and rinsed out it with Hiation cotton cleaneras as it has a reducing agent
I then applied Chemspec Browning remover, it looks a hell of a lot better, just a very slight yellow , you have to strain your eyes to see it ! I just hope the customer dosent see it tomorow ! Lol
if I do get a ring back I will take your advice and have ago with your procedure

Stuart

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Simons method could be a good way or you could try spray and go, I'm hoping that it's not the dye from the hessian backing which may have wicked up I tried to remove that from a carpet where another local cleaner had opened his gate valve on a carpet while not positioning his bucket properly.

Shaun

[Kev Loomes]

I wouldn't dream of telling anyone how to run their business (nowt to do with me), but this could be avoided by using a waterproof groundsheet placed under furniture whilst cleaning - and a small one placed under the machine in case it leaks or whilst dumping.

Basic stuff chaps.

[Simon Gerrard]

Shaun,   
That's what jute browning is!!!!  A dye called legnin being realise from the jute backing through over wetting which then wicks to the surface - jute browning, which is what Stuart is reporting.

Simon

[stuart_clark]

Kev
you are right in saying that if I had placed a plastic sheet on the floor I probably wouldnt be in this position now, I always used to use coton drop sheets over plastic tarpaulins,  but after purchasing a Saphire hand tool and not getting any over spray I stopped using them, he ho I've learned my lesson the hard way, hopefully I wont have a claim against me and the carpet will be ok
but if thats the case and I have to replace the carpet and take it on the chin


stuart

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Not always Simon the browning can occur from the dye from the hessian which wicks up or it can be browning from too much moisture 'aired' this happens on curtain linings (as an example)

Shaun

[Simon Gerrard]

Shaun,
That's cellulosic browning that you get in fabrics, we're talking about jute browning in carpets. But as long as Stuart gets it sorted, what's it matter.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

But the title says cellulosic browning? Perhaps we are going into cross purpose but one is easier to cure than the other...usually.

Shaun

[Kev Loomes]

Hope you get it sorted Stuart without having to go through your insurance.

[Simon Gerrard]

Stuart,
Just a thought. It might be worth trying to replicate the problem on another similar carpet sample and see what it takes to solve it, rather than keep trying different products on the one you have damaged, which may make matters worse.

Simon

[DB]

'All' Vegetable (plant based) fibres have the potential to release lignin dye...Jute is just one of them

[stuart_clark]

Well I haven't had any phone calls so hopefully its sorted, tbh you could hardly see anything by the time I left the customers house on wednesday and ive fowarded the photo to a few carpet cleaners and they couldnt see it either, so that and the fact I misted on Chemspec browning remover, Ithink it may have done the trick
thanks for all your coments guys, I do take negitave criticism kindly because as I said in the first place it was my cock up
I will be more carefull next time and not be complacent when using low moisture hand tools


Stuart

[terrymaloy]

Hi
Can you tell me the best way to apply Chemspec Browning formula to get the best results ?
I cleaned a customers conservatory carpet the other day. Wool mix, cream in colour which had a yellow /brown stain caused by a leak from the roof.
After cleaning and drying out the stain is more noticeable.
The stain covers an area approx 2ft x 2ft
Any help would be appreciated.  I said I'll go back and have another attempt but dont want to make it worse !

[Simon Gerrard]

The stain is more noticeable be caused you have cleaned the area around it.
I have chemspec browning and Prochem Browning Prescitption, but the best of them, in my opinion, is a mixture of Fibre Buff and Oxibrite in a shampoo.
It could also be that there are other contaminants coming in from the roof leak that could, make the stain permanent. Also there is the possibility that the customers has used off the shelf stain removers which could have set the stain.

Simon

[derek west]

Well I haven't had any phone calls so hopefully its sorted, tbh you could hardly see anything by the time I left the customers house on wednesday and ive fowarded the photo to a few carpet cleaners and they couldnt see it either, so that and the fact I misted on Chemspec browning remover, Ithink it may have done the trick
thanks for all your coments guys, I do take negitave criticism kindly because as I said in the first place it was my cock up
I will be more carefull next time and not be complacent when using low moisture hand tools


Stuart

You shouldn't really be hoping its sorted stuart, you should be ringing them to make sure its sorted. well thats what i'd do anyhoo. Food for thought.